What is recapitulation and how to do it...

[glance left]

"The nagual sets his intent to do something and then his body moves, unknowningly thru the process of accomplishment."

Yeah, this is how I intend. I set the intent....and then let go, remaining relaxed and aware, allowing infinity itself to guide the ship. Recap helps to clarify the capacity to let go and stay aware....so that intent can do its job

[glance left]

Addendum: In fact, the drunken nagual approach, as you call it Serloco , is an approach I use often when I don't know what needs to be recapitulated. Voice intent for infinity itself to bring to light what needs to be reviewed and released and then just let go and remain inwardly still until infinity/intent itself brings it into awareness.....whether through memory which arises in silent meditation....or when some event occurring in the day causes an emotional/energetic disruption causing me to reflexively coil down. Then can look back to see if there's a moment where this pattern of coiling started in my childhood....to recapitulate and release

[rosygyro]

Nagual Menagerie wrote:Interesting discussions. One thing I'm curious about is what a person does after recap. We have a scene from life being reviewed, but I've missed what is done with it once painful memories are brought to the surface. Do we leave it there to fester or is the act of retrieval meant to set it free?

Reviewing past trauma is healing when people can apply a healthy perspective, but what happens for those who don't have the resources or skills to transform trauma?For me , as i am very connected to the human assemblage point ( as a decision) i use BASE CHAKRA knowledge. the BASE chakra is a very deep powerfull energy that in its core is indifferent to your physical form.
the base chakra is the genus root.
housed within the base chakra is the origin of both sexes, as well as all sexual orientations, 
the base chakra of an individual clicks when a sibling is born, or when a distant cousin is born.
it even clicks when another human is born who shares no direct family link.
the base chakra registers in its motions the status of yourself in relationship to family as you become aunt or uncle
grandparent, great grandparent.
it is one of the irrevokeable truths of life as we move that our base chakra records our progress through the tree of life.

for an individual who wishes to be free of the corporeal energetic attachment a simple discernment in made between the external and the self.

so even though the base chakra records our extended families progress
also we can internalise ourselves as all positions of the family
or all positions of dreamers and stalkers etc..

a type of isomentric force within the base chakra is set up..

meaning in answer to your question
that you become the abuser and the abused
and attempt to work both sides of the story
using your base chakra.

its rather like a rose that long ago fell on its own thorn and is trying to grow in a fashion
which extracts it.

the base chakra is as such a microcosm of your greater world
and by balancing it internally you have power to resolve it externally
"provided" the energy you create is in harmony with life evolving.

It is a dishonest person who has a seperate face for the outside world to the one they show to the mirror.

its my main critique of inept stalking... the dishonesty.

[Billy]

I am not being just stubborn or contrary in what follows.  I know what I know:

The concept of enlightenment is a wholeness of being.. an integrity and easiness of being.  
 
  The notion of divesting from the tonal manifested in personal experience, history,  and societal context, etc. is complete nonsense.   'Destroying' the self is a convoluted trick to generate spacious separation for greater objectivity for control of choices.  

  I used it effectively, but the actual preparation and work is done  autonomously within the conventional framework.   At the root of effective awareness is one's choice and why one chooses in the first place.

   To have an intent that unfolds with not-doing is altogether different from intent that does so with out conception and remembering.  Intent surely does come to fruition without remembering, but its birth then bears the attributes of something that happens to 'us' (I am not 'us').   About two decades ago, in the experience of nirvana, a mentor pulled me from the delusion of the 'happening.'  He had me choose to SEE right there and then the how and why of that incredible experience so as to be on top of it (personally in control).  And afterwards, I so wanted to gravitate to desire for the happening to happen again.  My mentor pulled me from that too.

  He reminded me about the work--->   focus is to be brought back to one's orderly choice.   What is the  intent and the vision (ass_hole *) ?   

  Once one realizes the immutable connection of one's responsibility to manifestation, there is a heaviness of the heart and intensity that is to be worked through.  To cope with the weight and emergent energies requires inumerable tonal disciplines.   All of this presupposes having attained enough (decisional acumen) mastery over one's thoughts and emotions, and conditionality.  

  At this point, intent is in major proportion to one's existences and requires an essential rally of centering personhood.  One chooses to hone focus singularly to intent in a profound way.  There is no longer a disconnect from the world unfolding.  Synchronicity is abundant.  No thing is merely coincidental.  The responsibility is more immense each step of the way, and why the tonal disciplines were (are) necessary.   Energies must be constructively diffused.


  AND- not-doing aside, intent requires a knowing..  a remembering.  I spoke of this with someone a few days ago.  This remembering is refined and compressed into a 'key.'   It works like a hook that pulls one back into their intent.   It unlocks the dynamics of one's intent at work.  One is now participating in their intent dynamically.  This brings one into the realm of mastery of their own intent.  There is affirmation, confidence, and joy.

  One celibrates the richness and power of participating in one's own intent's imminency.  The idea of disabling self (selflessness), is entirely at odds with what I am saying.  Choice always originates from the point of my body and where I AM physically.

    When the intent is fulfilled, the happening is not 'just happening.'  Even though its (usually blissful) emanations are unknown, I am equal to them.. I am in charge of their reception.   Whenever and however (if) I am 'besieged,' I am on top.  I AM always on top.  


     The POWER that attends intent, is  not simply POWER (somewhere out there)---> it is decisively my POWER.

[glance left]

"Choice always originates from the point of my body and where I AM physically"

Until the body is no more. Then, choice originates from......where? That's the point, really. The self, in terms of the known....what's familiar....what one is certain about...what is fixated upon... is doomed to death. It will uncoil, either forcibly (which must be a hellish experience).....or willingly.

Recap is about dispensing with what's unnecessary, ultimately. The practice of letting go of fixation on the self

[Billy]

You make me laugh, glance left {shaking my head}.  Everyone here suffers the condition of being.. terrible suffering to be sure.  That is not enough.  I face that condition AS A HUMAN, and WIN my victory one choice at a time.  

Being in the FIRE---> 


Both the pain and joy is excruciating... it is quite exquisite, but the vibrational intensity  (no words to describe it)

I want and need to cry...   So much so  that when I come to that moment I laugh hysterically---> there is no exit---> Death? HAha

[glance left]

Yeah, everyone suffers.....but not everyone suffers willingly. That's the thing. Whether we cling to what is suffering....or relinquish and let it pass. Death's inevitable but it depends on whether we cling to/identify with what will die.

Anyways, it's pointless to argue, I see. Better to gain what I can from your experience/posts and leave the rest. I'm still just starting, even though I've been fumbling around with this stuff for a few years now. I've got a lot to learn.

[Nagual Menagerie]

Death is an exit, billy. A fantastic exit, but not one to be taken prematurely, I suppose.

Rosy, everyone lies. We either lie to others or to ourselves. The world isn't tolerant enough to support both perspectives yet. Until tolerance and kindness are embraced, to thy own self be true. Who should be the measure of inner truth? Thyself.

[glance left]

"meaning in answer to your question
that you become the abuser and the abused
and attempt to work both sides of the story
using your base chakra"

How does this work, in terms of recapitulating an event in which one was abused.....or the abuser for that matter?

[Nagual Menagerie]

I would like to know the answer to that inquiry, too. I can see the point of seeing both sides of the story, that makes sense. The base chakra is what throws the thing into a curious direction.

Maybe Rosy is talking sex magick. That's the only type of sexual (base chakra) healing I've been made aware. I wonder if there are more ways o.O Rosy, enlighten us

[rosygyro]

Here is a classic bit of nihilistic self destruction.
jack takes all the dominance of his bosses position and its power,
takes it into his own life, faster than the boss's sadism will allow it to travel in his consent/

the same is true of the rapists energetic hurdle.
the energetic atachment the abuse causes is already a form of power leak..
taking that leak and making it irrational beyond consent turns the leak into
a thing of beauty.

the mirror of justuce is a beautiful thing..
unless you accidently rape it..
then its many horrible things.

The base chakra is the mind fecker..
its not to be taken lightly, having sung so many souls into madness and death..

but if you find yourself accidently raping the world with your warcry,
that the echo of your cry is animated through dimensional pressure..
then you have to stop raping it.

in terms of personal crisis this is often debilitating mental and emotional crippling
until a subjective and non invasive intent is cultivated.

often this crisis become alchoholism.. as that is the simplest form of mental and emotional debilitation.
being aware is way harsh.

[rosygyro]

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