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Yes, the point is that inner silence can be very easy and natural, to "free oneself from flyer and flyers mind" is a concept while it is only some little impurity in energy (in the head, there is nothing out there... it is run by flyers anyway - Carlos Castaneda), a piece of cake to deal with it, with a little finger, only if one likes to stay in innersilence, if only one likes to "meditate", to abide in inner silence. so here are the concepts dropped and experience, enjoy the inner silence.
The society is totally infested, never ever believe anyone.
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So it is easy. but who likes to enjoy the silence. flyers mind cant stand silence even for 5 seconds. notice it is energetic, energetic impurity. the best thing one can do is to drop the fuss and cultivate inner silence. then it is simply energetically cleared. shitty sourcery new age constructs not really needed. in fact, to be interested in (new age) sourcery while having those energetic impurities in the head energy centers is petty. thats not cool then like that.
you see no need for drama. meditation. inner silence.
God is reality itself.
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“Man is the only species that has no limits. All of the species have limits. All of our consciousness of being arrives to a fringe of the big toe. That is all!! All of our consciousness of being is eaten by the flyers. The only thing that remains for us is a little bit! The whole world with I, I, I.”
“The sorcerer explains that the flyers are like shadows, like leaping crickets.”
“The consciousness of being is like a tree. If it is not pruned it grows! (the pruners are the flyers).
“The reasoning of the big toe! That is all that they leave us… If they were to eat us just a little more, we would die!”
One of the assistants says that she saw a flyer. CC says that what she has is talent, but to be able to see flyers, he says, “The sorcerers do not like the talent, they like the discipline. That they eat us is no joke, it is very serious!!”
“The flyers do not like discipline! Us with 3 days of not being eaten… it is sufficient to see!!!”
“The maneuvers of the flyers convert us from engineers into believers. How is it possible that such an intelligent being can be so dense in that? (believing in any divinity)
Who gave us those beliefs? The sorcerers say the flyers!”
“The flyers gave us the mind. The mind is not ours!
“I asked DJ, ‘What happens if the mind dissipates? What happens?’ DJ, ‘other level, you don’t think, there is knowledge!’
“I said to DJ, 2 and 2 are four, I understand that. DJ says to me, ‘You don’t understand! You use a process!’”
“The art of the sorcerer is to liberate himself from the mind.”
“We are at the mercy of those entities (flyers). They eat us like we eat chickens. They guard us and later they eat us.”
“DJ made me use my reason to arrive at an opinion negative of the flyers.”
- Carlos Castaneda
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Can you give some examples of new age sorcery constructs please?
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So it is a large waste of energy for me to be concerned with helping others free their minds? Is this desire to help other people actually a control used by the flyer mind, to keep me from the totality of myself? I am not sure. I still want to help other people. It is not about my journey only, but my journey can be used as an example to help others. As much as people try to discredit CC and other new age writers, it is those writers that help people like me have a chance at freedom. shouldn't we contribute as well? Or shall we allow the chicken coop to be harvested forever.....should we keep our heads buried inside a forum while the chickens are prepared for slaughter.
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BUT we have concluded already that the ONLY WAY is the Silence. Inner silence. Power of silence.
(hence perhaps all those crappy new age concepts).
Now i see Dan to suffer, all those years since he has read the active side of infinity on "FI". Why he cant just simply "free his mind". Because it is needed to clear the energetic centers in the head of those energies and this is done via meditation/concentration (this is cleaning, e.g. zazen) while acruing inner silence. So Dan, why dont you simply clear it.. all those years.. then you can have ease.
Notice pls that it is not some dodgy attitude but it is done exactly as Don Juan has put it:
= To store, accumulate inner-silence second by second, minute by minute, reaching the threshold and abiding there in silence.
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Question Sam. How do you drive a car in inner silence? How do you continue activities in the daily world while accruing inner silence?
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Yeah, these two forces are not the same.
I don't see it being done through entering the dream state, unless you then
proceed to the cohesive force from there. What we can do from the dream-body force
is only slightly advantageous over waking reality/stalking techniques.
I don't know any technical way to describe it or methodize it.
You have to "meet" the cohesive force, get to know it, understand how it relates to you, what
aspect of you it is, and practice solve et coagula... letting go and grabbing on.
This is the essence of the wheel of time, of awareness... reality is agreement; force is agreement;
cohesion is agreement. Stalking agreement to the root, one arrives at the cohesive force.
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There is certain (phenomenological) method developed by dr. CC himself how to get clear, precise, exact - technical opinion, here on the problem of "FI":
what is ONLY a foreign energy in the head center.
The point is in the realm of energy: an energetic fact.
The method is to operate with the energetic facts, on a warrior way, to save all the confusions and fuss.
In this respect:
inner silence is energetic, energetic awareness (energetic method to energetic fact) via concentration/meditation of this energetic awareness those centers are cleared - only if it is used as to fortify oneself.
So the vibration of the agglutinating force is grabbed directly in the waking state. (the vibration while falling asleep.. not safe to use like that, as it is overload for brain ? still "FI" vibrates in it. the question on safety remains, nobody answered the question). Don Juan told to grab the vibration directly with body.
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Has anyone considered the possibility that the notions of a Flyer or a Foreign Installation might be cons? Aren't they rather like saying, "The Devil made me do it"? i.e., transferring responsibility for ones thoughts and actions onto some ephemeral other?
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No, and it is confirmed by both yoga and buddhism traditions (including real Zen - not american - tradition, what you are obviously ignorant about too).
You see, this is problem with you, and you have "FI" too.
It is foreign energy in head centers. Buddha called it monkey mind, parasite. Flyers were called "deer hunters".
The FI is only energy, nothing else. So no: "The Devil made me do it"? i.e., transferring responsibility for ones thoughts and actions onto some ephemeral other?"
Look up what is phenomenology.
This is what zazen (dhyana) is about. to clear the head energy centers. it is not meditation, but concentration and this clearance.
it is better to understand that the mode is to live from the inner silence, and this is energetic, not conceptual.
"Flyer or a Foreign Installation might be cons"
You haven't understood anything here, but now you can. so much for pseudo zen, i.e.zen without zazen.
edit: if you have pure mind, get cleared your head centers then there is no problem. no FI.
So the technical removal is something what is called by nickname "zazen", i.e. clearing the head centers. This is the easy approach. 5 hours a day of zazen for 4 weeks, and this will do to clear it. This is the advice hm.
Otherwise, you accumulate inner silence energetically - intentionally, without sitting, by concentrating on it day long, not only while working, it is needed to hold the inner silence with intent.
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This is what zazen (dhyana) is about. to clear the head energy centers. it is not meditation, but concentration and this clearance.
it is better to understand that the mode is to live from the inner silence, and this is energetic, not conceptual.
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"Flyer or a Foreign Installation might be cons"
You haven't understood anything here, but now you can. so much for pseudo zen, i.e.zen without zazen.
edit: if you have pure mind, get cleared your head centers then there is no problem. no FI.
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So the technical removal is something what is called by nickname "zazen", i.e. clearing the head centers. This is the easy approach. 5 hours a day of zazen for 4 weeks, and this will do to clear it. This is the advice hm.
Otherwise, you accumulate inner silence energetically - intentionally, without sitting, by concentrating on it day long, not only while working, it is needed to hold the inner silence with intent.
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Question Sam. How do you drive a car in inner silence? How do you continue activities in the daily world while accruing inner silence?
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Yeah, these two forces are not the same.
I don't see it being done through entering the dream state, unless you then
proceed to the cohesive force from there. What we can do from the dream-body force
is only slightly advantageous over waking reality/stalking techniques.
I don't know any technical way to describe it or methodize it.
You have to "meet" the cohesive force, get to know it, understand how it relates to you, what
aspect of you it is, and practice solve et coagula... letting go and grabbing on.
This is the essence of the wheel of time, of awareness... reality is agreement; force is agreement;
cohesion is agreement. Stalking agreement to the root, one arrives at the cohesive force.
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There is certain (phenomenological) method developed by dr. CC himself how to get clear, precise, exact - technical opinion, here on the problem of "FI":
what is ONLY a foreign energy in the head center.
The point is in the realm of energy: an energetic fact.
The method is to operate with the energetic facts, on a warrior way, to save all the confusions and fuss.
In this respect:
inner silence is energetic, energetic awareness (energetic method to energetic fact) via concentration/meditation of this energetic awareness those centers are cleared - only if it is used as to fortify oneself.
So the vibration of the agglutinating force is grabbed directly in the waking state. (the vibration while falling asleep.. not safe to use like that, as it is overload for brain ? still "FI" vibrates in it. the question on safety remains, nobody answered the question). Don Juan told to grab the vibration directly with body.
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Has anyone considered the possibility that the notions of a Flyer or a Foreign Installation might be cons? Aren't they rather like saying, "The Devil made me do it"? i.e., transferring responsibility for ones thoughts and actions onto some ephemeral other?
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No, and it is confirmed by both yoga and buddhism traditions (including real Zen - not american - tradition, what you are obviously ignorant about too).
You see, this is problem with you, and you have "FI" too.
It is foreign energy in head centers. Buddha called it monkey mind, parasite. Flyers were called "deer hunters".
The FI is only energy, nothing else. So no: "The Devil made me do it"? i.e., transferring responsibility for ones thoughts and actions onto some ephemeral other?"
Look up what is phenomenology.
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This is what zazen (dhyana) is about. to clear the head energy centers. it is not meditation, but concentration and this clearance.
it is better to understand that the mode is to live from the inner silence, and this is energetic, not conceptual.
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"Flyer or a Foreign Installation might be cons"
You haven't understood anything here, but now you can. so much for pseudo zen, i.e.zen without zazen.
edit: if you have pure mind, get cleared your head centers then there is no problem. no FI.
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So the technical removal is something what is called by nickname "zazen", i.e. clearing the head centers. This is the easy approach. 5 hours a day of zazen for 4 weeks, and this will do to clear it. This is the advice hm.
Otherwise, you accumulate inner silence energetically - intentionally, without sitting, by concentrating on it day long, not only while working, it is needed to hold the inner silence with intent.
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Gonzo asked a simple question that could have lead to an interesting conversation and you blatantly called him ignorant. That is a good example of calling the kettle black.Just to elaborate on his original thought, it is really interesting how a lot of religious followers such as Christians, Catholics and even Muslims will blame the devil on "negative" thoughts when in reality it is the Foreign Installation. One could see it either way, but when one actually see's energy one can see the foreign, trapped energy and we then know it is real and not our imagination.
There are a few ways to remove the foreign installation. Zazen is not the only and effective method but the concept is the same. Reach inner silence and stay there. You'll only get so far if you don't have a purpose though. There are active and passive meditations, both have their uses.
Sorcery comes into play when you want to move the assemblage point or change your energetic configuration to one that is not human. It's not outdated and it isn't ****. The only real thing it is is dangerous if you don't have a benefactor to help bring you back if you succeed in changing into something else. Sorcery deals with allies, summoning essentially powers from different realms and worlds. It's usefulness depends on your temperament and purpose.
Lastly, another interesting concept to talk about...I don't believe you can damage your brain holding onto the vibrating force while falling asleep, or at least I think it would be extremely unlikely. If anything, you might damage your energy body which is infinitely more dangerous. The goal I aim for is not just to reach inner silence or nirvana if you will, but to create, perfect and ultimately merge the energy with the physical body. And then, you can choose to unleash kundalini, or burn from within if you will and merge with infinity. I don't think it's possible to do all that without removing the FI though.
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very well said my friend, cosmic orgasm.
now we can only add the repeat that: PEOPLE ARE FLYERS ! :-))
Indeed, we are them already.
Once i have told to a real Zen master that all those people around are buddhas, he told me: no, they are stupid.
so much for calling kettle black.
"For millennia, flyers (Archonts/Hunters/Los Volarodes) have concocted plans to collectivize us. There was a time when they
became so shameless that they were even seen in public, and people made representations of
them in stone. Those were dark times; they were everywhere. But now their strategy has
become so intelligent that we don't even know they exist. In the past, they hooked us through
our credulity, today, through our materialism. They are responsible for modern man's
ambition not to have to think for himself; just observe how long somebody will tolerate
silence!"
"Why the change in their strategy?"
"Because, at this time, they are running a great risk. Humanity is in very quick and constant
contact, and information can reach anyone. Either they must fill our heads, bombarding us day
and night with all kind of suggestions, or there will be some who will realize and warn the
others."
"What would happen if we were able to repel those entities?"
"In one week, we would recover our vitality and we would be shining again. But, as normal
human beings, we cannot think about that possibility, because it would imply to go against all
that is socially acceptable. Fortunately, sorcerers have one weapon: Discipline (or total awareness).
Silence. Inner silence (accumulation). Concentration. Zazen.
- Carlos Castanedaad vibration: exactly as Don Juan has put it. directly and in the "waking". it is where is the pass "starting of body" in tensegrity.
"I don't believe you can damage your brain holding onto the vibrating force while falling asleep.."
people are complaining that the vibration makes the head fuzzy. so it can damage energy (neurology is tied to it), also possibly trigger epileptic seizure, so it is not this one.
So the answer is that it is done directly from physical body, like in the starting the body tensegrity pass, exactly there is the vibrating force. (Do not use the vibration in the sleeping threshold as it neurologic overload not this vibratory force).
"The flyers' mind flees forever when a sorcerer succeeds in grabbing on to the vibrating force that holds us together as a conglomerate of energy fields. If a sorcerer maintains that pressure long enough, the flyers' mind flees in defeat. And that is exactly what you are going to do; hold on to the energy that binds you together."
Good luck and do not forget i have told it is accumulation of inner silence constantly. and the easist way is to clear it (the head energy centers) with zazen.
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"For millennia, flyers (Archonts/Hunters/Los Volarodes) have concocted plans to collectivize us. There was a time when they
became so shameless that they were even seen in public, and people made representations of
them in stone. Those were dark times; they were everywhere. But now their strategy has
become so intelligent that we don't even know they exist. In the past, they hooked us through
our credulity, today, through our materialism. They are responsible for modern man's
ambition not to have to think for himself; just observe how long somebody will tolerate
silence!"
"Why the change in their strategy?"
"Because, at this time, they are running a great risk. Humanity is in very quick and constant
contact, and information can reach anyone. Either they must fill our heads, bombarding us day
and night with all kind of suggestions, or there will be some who will realize and warn the
others."
"What would happen if we were able to repel those entities?"
"In one week, we would recover our vitality and we would be shining again. But, as normal
human beings, we cannot think about that possibility, because it would imply to go against all
that is socially acceptable. Fortunately, sorcerers have one weapon: Discipline (or total awareness).
Silence. Inner silence (accumulation). Concentration. Zazen.
- Carlos Castaneda
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