Wasting intentional energy

[Turin Otzaki]

nice

[Nu Lang]

zombie,



I have been at forums a long time. I do not get hurt or offended. Read over my posts you will see. I'm a very happy member here.

[zombiewarrioroflight]

Actually I didn't mean you just felt it needed to be said, because I was getting that vibe from some of these posts

[Nu Lang]

You mean its not my strong flyer sending out vibes?, lol. Teasing you...sort of.

[scout1]

Nu Lang, corazon, describe the Flyer as You have seen it, please.



Thanks

[Nu Lang]

sounds like a voice, human voice.

[scout1]

me human ??!



describe the Flyer chica.. so we have some point of reference

[Nu Lang]

me human ??!



you human ??!

[scout1]

start desribing the Flyer.. as you have seen it last time..



we wait

[Nu Lang]

it was just black, saw two eyes. Wasn't sure if it was the flyer though.

[scout1]

Robert, Bobby ,)



describe it more in proportions please

[Nu Lang]

proportions? What do you mean?

[zombiewarrioroflight]

You guys are weird....



I've seen flyers at twilight and at night at a park by moms house. I would turn my head and I would see a flash of an image of maybe like 6 black figures standing in the grass, then next time I would see them there in a different place. The energy is really dark there. It feels like pressure on your chest.

[Guest]

zombiewarrioroflight wrote:
You guys are weird....
I've seen flyers at twilight and at night at a park by moms house. I would turn my head and I would see a flash of an image of maybe like 6 black figures standing in the grass, then next time I would see them there in a different place. The energy is really dark there. It feels like pressure on your chest.I got a creepy feeling when I read this.

[garth]

I have seen them many times before too, as described above. Usually I just see one at a time, but sometimes there are more. Often they are a human-like shape initially; my feeling is that this is my own perception playing with me. I "see" a being, and it's not a tree or a bird or a raccoon, and so it must be a person... but it's not really a person, so maybe it's a shadow? but it's not a shadow...



And then they notice that I have noticed them, and they sort-of move away. They don't walk, run, or jump like people, though; it's more of an up-and-away motion. As they move up, I realize that it's not a person or a shadow, because people and shadows don't just suddenly fly away from me, and I realize instead that I'm seeing the flyers again. Usually it turns from a person-shape into more of a black matador's cape floating away. (Carlos Castaneda described seeing shapes like this around campfires while hanging out with Don Juan.) Actually, it's kinda like if Superman were crouching in the shadows, and then when he saw you, he jumped up and flew away and you saw his cape fluttering as he disappeared. Sometimes, I don't see the person shape at all. If I'm seeing shadows in trees, sometimes it just looks like someone hung a bunch of pitch-black bedsheets in the branches, until they start moving around.



These kinds of incidents are often accompanied by strange flashes of green and yellow light around me, before and/or after seeing the beast(s). Flashes of light like this were mentioned by Carlos Castaneda in his own experiences, which I discovered after experiencing them myself. (!) Usually these incidents also occur around twilight. It also happens when I am relaxed and in a warrior's mindset, which is usually completely unintentional because I am pretty much the worst warrior ever as evidenced by the swarms of flyers around me.



Speaking of swarms, I have seen them in swarms, too. Usually I think they're bats at first, until I realize that they can't be bats because they're doing things like flying through walls. I call this kind of vision the "feeding frenzy". It's actually a terrifying notion. Initially I was trying to conceive of mud-shadows (don't see that name here much!) as big, hulking beasts. Then I found myself stepping into one of these swarms one day. I thought maybe I had unintentionally stepped into some strange sorcery experience, so I used some assemblage point movement techniques I had been practicing. I found that by controlling my gaze and breathing I could switch between seeing the swarm of bats flying around me and just seeing the normal world as I would expect to see it. Amused, I sat down and played with my gazing, until one landed on my shoulder. I suddenly got the same feeling of "dark energy" and "pressure on the chest" that the zombie experienced. Then I heard munching. It was like the sound when you take a bite out of a potato chip. I realized that I was experiencing -- seeing, hearing, and feeling -- a mud shadow beast actually eating me. I freaked out, ran home, and basically felt insane for about a week.



Like I said at the beginning, usually I just see one or a small group, but more than once I have seen gigantic swarms as dense or denser than a swarm of bats. The implications of this are overwhelming. Perhaps I sometimes accidentally step into mudshadow nests and I'm seeing the larval forms. Or perhaps there is a constant swarm everywhere and we are just too weak to perceive it. The latter, and considerably more terrifying, of these was what I "knew" in a seeing/instinctual sense the first time I understood the swarm. It's like The Matrix. Let us all remember some of Don Juan's wisdom... in the sorcerer's world, normal rational concepts (like proportions and shapes) do not apply as we would expect them to. This helps explain the various sizes and sudden shifts in shapes of the flyers I see. And it also supports my idea that the small, bat-like shadows are the same thing as the crouching people shadows, which are also the same thing as the fluttering sheet shadows. (But why should we trust a crazy man's stories about some witch-doctor who never existed?? Oh... because he described my own experiences, before I had them, in books which I didn't read until after I had the experiences. Weird.)



So, maybe I'm crazy... but I am rather convinced that there is a big swarm of invisible, insidious, mind-controlling shadow beings that have infested the Earth and are, in some fashion, farming and eating us humans. Pretty fucked up world we live in.



Until you consider the tomatoes and the soybeans and the chickens and the cows, that is. Hahaha! Perhaps the shadows are genetically engineering us too... wait, no, that's TOO crazy.

[garth]

By the way, I have never seen these shadows while dreaming or right after waking up, like most people do. It is always when I am fully awake and engaged.





Didn't Don Juan also tell Carlos about people having different bents? I'm a stalker, not a dreamer.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Welcome to the forums Garth, nice post!

[Guest]

garth wrote:By the way, I have never seen these shadows while dreaming or right after waking up, like most people do. It is always when I am fully awake and engaged.





Didn't Don Juan also tell Carlos about people having different bents? I'm a stalker, not a dreamer.Well, you write like a dreamer, so you must have a pretty good handle on both sides.  Nice work!  Nice to meet ya!

[Guest]

Hi Garth! I liked your post too, the way you described your experiences. I once dreamed of this enormous black thing, looked like a sting ray and had bulging eyes, I could see the whites of them. It was hovering over me as I lay in bed, pressuing down on me, I felt it compressing my chest. I felt immobile while it was over me. I could think clearly, that is, I knew it should not be doing what it was doing, and I felt angry, like screming at it to leave. But I didn't scream, or couldn't. Then I woke up. I then read a few months later Carlos's new book out which had the chapter on mud shadows. I was so excited to read about what I saw and felt months earlier in that dream. Even after that dream, like the next day, I went to the library to try and find images to fit this creature (this was before the internet was very popular), I was rather obsessed with finding it. I was looking at baroque era paintings as that is how it felt to me. I did find a few...and then later... years later learned about mothman, and that looked rather similar to what I saw too.



You heard the sound of it eating you, now that must have left a lasting impression of it!

[Peacefulwarrior]

a big loser.

[Mornings Son]

Peacefulwarrior wrote:a big loser.So what? 
At least share what led you that conclusion.

[spiderlily]

Peacefulwarrior wrote:a big loser.
Did ya get banned?

[Peacefulwarrior]

Mornings Son wrote:
Peacefulwarrior wrote:a big loser.
So what? 

At least share what led you that conclusion.

[Guest]