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Hello Wolf.
How can one person know if they are affected by a flyer? I have read that most people have a flyer, but some dont.
Most of the time, I do have unwanted thoughts. I dont have much control over my thought process, and this agravates me pretty much, since I put so much work into controling it... Its hard to know if my thoughts come from me or some external source.
But on the other hand, I meditate a lot. And I know that flyers hate inner silence and positive energy. So am I infected or not? How can I know?
Thanks LW.
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Its different with everyone Blue Totem. The combinations are endless between human host and inorganic. There are inorganics who are more friendly and actually like humans and then there are ones who we are like cattle to. There are very old inorganics that have been in many human hosts for hundreds of years and there are inorganics who are in their first host. There are millions on our planet that have never been in a human and coexist with us. As for humans, there are so many of us that are different, I hope you see the endless combinations that exist. Indians from the North Americas are the most flyer free race is what I have found but there are many who have no flyers for various reasons but the vast majority of the human species are dominated by the foreign installation. By meditation and maintaining inner silence we can determine the strength one's particular flyer has on oneself. The longer one can go with inner silence the more weaker the inorganic becomes. Its inner mind control that forces the flyer out. Making the intent inside the mind that any being inside is not welcomed.
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Hi Lonewolf
The idea of 'sailing past the Eagle' has been puzzling to me.
However, in a dream, it was suggested to me that it means being able to retain one's energy. That, if one is powerful enough, at death, he will come to consciousness in an entirely new environment, or world.
It seems that some of Castaneda's examples of AP shift suggest this.
What say you?
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At the moment of death the human body's AP impoldes.The spirit rises out of it. If a warrior can use death's energy when this happens he/she can shift to the third attention and keep awareness and inhabit the double.
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Lonewolf replied:
At the moment of death the human body's AP implodes.The spirit rises out of it. If a warrior can use death's energy when this happens he/she can shift to the third attention and keep awareness and inhabit the double.
OK. I recall this from the books, and while it is a bit abstract, you are likely right as to the process (which I can't hope to accomplish at my level, but that is just a thought).
In the dream, I simply found myself shifted to a different reality. If this was done through the double, so be it.
My next question:
Did you see the remarks I made about author Stephen King? That he seems to reflect some of the Nagual teachings? ( I forgot to mention that he had a character 'See', and he used that word, the fibers of the world's energy) I can't even find where I posted it, myself. I sought an appropriate thread, blindly. It's easy for me to get lost here these days! So many new directions. That is a reason I had hoped to use my introduction thread in a more general way.
(edit) Oh, in looking at your reply to Blue Totem about Flyers, it really does reflect what King wrote, the kinds of beings affecting humans and how to deal with them. I really wonder about trauma affecting the AP shift. Either the author has read Castaneda and is borrowing ideas, or has no knowledge about the nature of his thinking. I can imagine that many may experience an AP shift, and not realize it.
Good to hear from you
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I read some of Kings books early in his career and found him a gifted writer but I see what you mean and possibly he read CC.
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Nagual Lonwolf said:
At the moment of death the human body's AP impoldes.The spirit rises out of it. If a warrior can use death's energy when this happens he/she can shift to the third attention and keep awareness and inhabit the double.
This language is a bit opaque, but as I think on it, this is what my dream was about. I simply moved on into a different world; no dividing 'line' or anything. I was here once, and then there.
Also, as I gather information, I find references to the Nagual expanding. That is, more affirmation of its reality. Beyond the 'table' of the Tonal.
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