Ancient Aliens

[Nu Lang]

Just watched this series, two episodes from the History Channel. It was really fascinating. For many years I have heard of theories about ancient aliens coming to earth and influencing humans...we have all heard this, its nothing new. But this documentary is worth checking out as it reveals more information than I previous knew about...such as in India they have ancient records of a flying vehicle called Vimana, and another place in south America is called Puma Punka where the stones are cut with laser precision and no way any crude tool could do that. There is much more talked about and I can't remember it all, but as the series goes on you really consider that its surprising more attention has not been put towards this to teach in school and such, but of course its information that generations past were not ready to consider and now in this day and age I think the fear has lessened and many are willing to allow for more information to come out. It certainly explains how man set apart from the rest of animals...that he had an 'alien intelligence' influence his development. The Egyptian Pyramids are where the story begins. They cover a lot of information and geographical regions and talk to many who have studied these ideas extensively...so worth checking out if you haven't seen yet. http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens

[Guest]

ive been keeping an eye on this series, too wei.... there has even been a discussion about ancient aliens being "jinn".... which of, course, relates directly to us, since we know them as inorganic beings.

[ninth octave]

Watching these ancient alien theorist is like picking up another piece of mankind's puzzle and contemplating where the next  fit n snap is.  I loved the pioneer work of Zecharia Sitchin, brilliant scholar, researcher,historian and author. He made his life carreer decoding the Annanuki  Sumarian tablets. I just was informed he died  this past October 9, 2010. He lived till 90 years old. So glad there are others impassioned with this enthusiasm. Erich von Daniken is his successor with this same  kind of foreknowledge.  Awesome watching!

[Nu Lang]

Moth, yes watching these episodes, and seeing the art of ancient people, I can't help but think they were communicated to in dreams. The series focuses on tangible evidence, even looking for alien skulls and such, but we here know its just as feasable the 'aliens' descented upon man in dreams. I feel there are many types of aliens, some good and helping, some not. In one espisode (I think its episode 4...total of 6) they talk about a war in the sky between those who harnessed the sky...which could be aliens.



Ninth, the Sumerian part is most fascinating...it seems that was the time the aliens first arrived. That's when we see the beginning of language, cuneiform, and development of man. So you are so right, its thanks to others with such passion that we are learning far more than ever imagined. I was most amazed to hear both Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin believed in alien life as a possibility. There were others with them in agreement but I forget their names...Thomas Paine was one and I think he was even sent to England as punishment for his views of which were not popular at the time and he wrote some paper and it upset people etc. So its like history is rewriting itself.

[Bob May]

I don't believe the ancient knowledge came from aliens, but from angels ("sons God", or "sons of the gods"). That is my opinion on the subject. Never-the-less it is all very interesting. I would like to see some of the Sumerian text translations without the Alien "spin" just to see what was actually written. We tend to put our own opinions into what we write and read and a lot of the experts on history channel come with preconcieved theories to prove. We all do that to some extent.
But either alien or angels it is all very interesting.
"Puma Punka where the stones are cut with laser precision and no way any crude tool could do that."
That is one of the most impressive things. Being a woodworker I can appreciate the difficulty of the perfectly routed grooves and holes drilled at perfect intervals, even with today's power tools and carbide cutters. Even more difficult/impossible in stone, as one stone worker they had on said.
Another site was more impressive still. The giant blocks of stone (in Babylon?) They have no machines that could lift them even today. They form a temple and had to be lifted and stacked 30 feet in the air. No rope would have been strong enough to pull them up a ramp let alone lift them.

[ninth octave]

Yes," the sons of God "mentioned in short in Genesis 6:4  
THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH IN THOSE DAYS; AND ALSO AFTER THAT , WHEN THE sONS of GOD CAME IN UNTO THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN, AND THEY BARE CHILDREN TO THEM, THE SAME BECAME MIGHTY MEN WHICH WERE OF OLD, MEN OF RENOWN.
This was written out in B.C. 2448. 
 Firstly who were the sons of God?  and who were the mighty men which were old, men of renown?
These architects seem to  have been huge in stature in order to have built these monuments  with such finesse and flawless persicion. Especially what we see in Egypt and also Petra in Jordan. It looks like these" giants" took on these projects. 
Also the "Tower of Babel" in Genesis 11:1-4 pinpoints the alien spin.
AND  THE WHOLE EARTH WAS OF ONE LANGUAGE, AND OF ONE SPEECH. AND IT CAME TO PASS, AS THEY JOURNEYED FROM THE EAST, THAT THEY FOUND A PLAIN IN THE LAND OF SHINAR; AND THEY DWELT THERE.
AND THEY SAID ONE TO ANOTHER, GO TO, LET US MAKE BRICK, AND BURN THEM THOROUGHLY. AND THEY HAD BRICK FOR STONE, AND SLIME HAD THEY FOR MORTER.
AND THEY SAID, GO TO, LET US BUILD US A CITY AND A TOWER, WHOSE TOP MAY REACH UNTO HEAVEN; AND LET US MAKE US A NAME, LEST WE BESCATTERED ABROAD UPON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH.

[Bob May]

ninth octave wrote:
Hi Ninth,
Yes," the sons of God "mentioned in short in Genesis 6:4  
THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH IN THOSE DAYS; AND ALSO AFTER THAT , WHEN THE sONS of GOD CAME IN UNTO THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN, AND THEY BARE CHILDREN TO THEM, THE SAME BECAME MIGHTY MEN WHICH WERE OF OLD, MEN OF RENOWN.
This was written out in B.C. 2448. 
 Firstly who were the sons of God?  and who were the mighty men which were old, men of renown?
These architects seem to  have been huge in stature in order to have built these monuments  with such finesse and flawless persicion. Especially what we see in Egypt and also Petra in Jordan. It looks like these" giants" took on these projects. 
Also the "Tower of Babel" in Genesis 11:1-4 pinpoints the alien spin.
AND  THE WHOLE EARTH WAS OF ONE LANGUAGE, AND OF ONE SPEECH. AND IT CAME TO PASS, AS THEY JOURNEYED FROM THE EAST, THAT THEY FOUND A PLAIN IN THE LAND OF SHINAR; AND THEY DWELT THERE.
AND THEY SAID ONE TO ANOTHER, GO TO, LET US MAKE BRICK, AND BURN THEM THOROUGHLY. AND THEY HAD BRICK FOR STONE, AND SLIME HAD THEY FOR MORTER.
AND THEY SAID, GO TO, LET US BUILD US A CITY AND A TOWER, WHOSE TOP MAY REACH UNTO HEAVEN; AND LET US MAKE US A NAME, LEST WE BESCATTERED ABROAD UPON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH. 
 

In the Qabala there is an order of angels called the sons of the gods or the sons of God.

It is interesting that the language is confused in Genesis at Shinar where men tried to build the tower to heaven, as you showed above yet in the bringing of the Spirit at Pentecost There is a supernatural understanding of unknown languages, showing a new relationship between God and Mankind.
This is the bringing in of the New Covenant. Believing, Not Doing.
Actually, come to think of it Believing IS the "not doing" of our end of a covenant, or what is required of us.
The natural man has a very hard time with this because effort is the currency of this earth plane. So we try to reach higher things by effort also. Our efforts come to nothing, ..That is the Tower of Babel.


Ac 2:4
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.




Ac 2:5
And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.




Ac 2:6
Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.




Ac 2:7
And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?




Ac 2:8
And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?




Ac 2:9
Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,


 

Ac 2:10
Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,


 

Ac 2:11
Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.


 

Ac 2:12
And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?


 
This difference in relationship is the recieving of the Gift (Grace) rather than the trying to climb to heaven by our own efforts.
The same thing shows also in the sacrifices of Cain and Able. Works versus Grace. New versus Old Covenants.
  


Ac 2:14
But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:


 

Ac 2:15
For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.


 

Ac 2:16
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;


 

Ac 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

[Nu Lang]

Bob May wrote:"Puma Punka where the stones are cut with laser precision and no way any crude tool could do that."
That is one of the most impressive things. Being a woodworker I can appreciate the difficulty of the perfectly routed grooves and holes drilled at perfect intervals, even with today's power tools and carbide cutters. Even more difficult/impossible in stone, as one stone worker they had on said.
Another site was more impressive still. The giant blocks of stone (in Babylon?) They have no machines that could lift them even today. They form a temple and had to be lifted and stacked 30 feet in the air. No rope would have been strong enough to pull them up a ramp let alone lift them.Yes it really forces you to reconsider history doesn't? I mean...forget school text books, they lie! Saying that the pyramids were built by making a ramp and then rolling the tons-heavy bricks over logs...the show said even today we likely don't have the equipment to lift such bricks...but since they (scholars who make the text books) need to give an explanation...they come up with some dumb idea that pertains only to man becasue anything else is too absurd to them, then what they come up with is taught in schools as if fact.

[Nu Lang]

"I don't believe the ancient knowledge came from aliens, but from angels ("sons God", or "sons of the gods"). That is my opinion on the subject."



Yeah I don't see a conflict with that...what some people call angels others call aliens. What some call God, others call Spirit. The main thing is to see energy, understand intent. To do such we have to drop labels on a certain level of knowing, though we may use the labels/words to communicate what we know.

[ninth octave]

Thanks Bob May for sharing the rare perception of the confused tongues of Babel in the OT with the loosed tongues of understanding bestowed by the Holy Spirit in this era of the New Covenant.



Nu Lang great way to see it . God =Spirit= God = Jesus = God = Spirit with us. The name Emanuel means God with us. The name Ezekiel means God strengthens us. Ezekiel is the one who saw and describes a UFO (which really turns out to be the throne of the living God! )as best as he could in B.C. 595

[ninth octave]

Ezekie1:4-7l Describing a UFO



And I looked, and behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the fire



Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was there appearance; they had the likeness of a man.



And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.



And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.

[Guest]