The eye of the storm

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Quote:We are our own worst nightmare.
You may be one of them, but I'm not!
THEY are their own worst nightmare.

[dreamster]

I think the hurricane was more about hitting and shutting down the oil rigs and refineries than it was about Vodun.

[Crocossaurio]

Abramelin,
New croc on the block here. Just a humble remark of this silly croc... whilst you are correct about the "reap hat you sow" being the old stuf that you said it is, you are nonetheless incorrect about it meaning a vengeful god. It is miss or poor understanding, that leads people to assume "vengeance" in it and therefore to categorize whatever it might come from (god to some, life to others, the Universe to yet others, etc...) as vengeful.
To reap what one sows, i nothing more than a natural mechanism of cause-effect. There's no emotion in such mechanism, just motion.
There's a peculiar system of belief that deals with reeincarnation, that can display a somewhat different (perhaps new to you) prespetive on this issue; perhaps if you browse through it, you can enrich your views... although to be fair and honest, you'll have to do your own reasoning to decide if there might or might not be some viability to what such theory has to say... otherwise, you'll just be swallowing whatever you will be reading... and this croc doesn't really believe that somebody with a name such Abramelin (Abra-melin, still incorporated in present days in some masonic rituals ), will swallow anything without chewing it first... then again, croco here might be wrong, of course...
croco

[Abramelin]

Croc:
"To reap what one sows, i nothing more than a natural mechanism of cause-effect. There's no emotion in such mechanism, just motion."
Yeah, I understand that. But if you read a little bit more of the Bible and the Qur'an, you'll see that a god is being portrayed who punishes those who act against his will and his laws. The laws he made up.
What you now call cause and effect, an emotionless natural mechanism, was viewed a bit different back then.
Don't worry: I'm not masonic.

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I've suspected for years that they have discovered a cure for muscular dystrophy and are suppressing the information because of the money they get from the Jerry Lewis MDA Labor Day telethon. To have that telethon going now while the media is pushing people to help the victims of the voodoo capital of America is quite the thing. ANY American city famous for practicing voodoo is doomed and I have no intention of bailing them out, period. As far as I am concerned they deserve to swim in their own dung and urine. Let this be a lesson for ALL THOSE who practice voodoo in America. May they all end up swimming in their own dung and urine unless they forever throw that voodoo out of their lives!
Call me cruel if you like, but the solution for me is to change the channel with a completely clear conscience.

[Crocossaurio]

Abramelim,
croc's not worried; ever seen a croc worried???
You said:
"Yeah, I understand that. But if you read a little bit more of the Bible and the Qur'an, you'll see that a god is being portrayed who punishes those who act against his will and his laws. The laws he made up.
What you now call cause and effect, an emotionless natural mechanism, was viewed a bit different back then."
Of course it was viewed differently; it still is viewed differently today, as you can easily see for yourself, all around you in your daily affairs.
As for the books you mention above, croc here has read them both to understand what you're saying. But croc here also understands that the said laws made up by the said portrayed God, are exactly that: laws ascribed to a portrayed God.
And who does portray such God? The men who wrote, rewrote and keep rewriting and adjusting the said books, so as to fulfil their own goals.
What is utterly sad to this croc, is to watch a legion of human beings constantly bragging and prouding themselves so much about their status of "intelligent" beings, swallowing, digesting and shitting off all the indoctrination of those books, without for a single moment, exercizing any "intelligent" pondering upon any of it...
Little wonder then, that such cause-effect mechanism is still viewed and believed today to be an act coming from a punishing God... when, all the while, the same folks whom portray such God, are constantly bragging about it being infinitely forgiving... nhaaa....cc...nhac, nhac, nhac, nhac, nhac...(croc's laughter)
Anyway, the offer stands. There's interesting info on the subject for you to scrutinize, shall you feel like peweking at it - and NO, it's not croc here selling or propagandizing anything. The info is just that: info.
Check out "The Book of Spirits" as written by a french chap under the pseudonym of Allan Kardec. The mentioned system of belief, is "Spiritism", which is defined as a scientific-phylosophic doctrine of moral consequences.
Again, no advertizing. But info is everywhere and it's up to the individual to extract from it whatever it might have of a worth to be extracted - if anything at all, obviously.
nhac nhac..
croco

[Abramelinn]

Dunno Croc, but I have this distinct feeling you're barking up the wrong tree...
I was comparing Katrino's reaction (see page 1), ya know, about Mother Earth doing this and that because we did so and so, with the old Judeo-Christian-Moslem view of a revengeful god.
You don't have to explain to me who created that god and why.
If on the other hand you needed my post to have an excuse to pour out, then please don't let me be in your way.

Abe.

[Crocossaurio]

Abramelin,
croc's don't bark, they bite... even trees, occasionally... if they have a good bird on them, for example... not bitting anything here, though.
croc here understood very well what you were doing, thank you for confirming... croc just thought (now, there's a miracle, huh... a thinking croc...) you could do with some extra info for some of your future comparisons...
An excuse? croc? to pour out? nhac, nhac... croc's pour out whenever they feel like pouring out, they don't need excuses... thanks for the gesture, though, croc appreciates it...
anyway... check that feeling again... croc has some swimming to do now...
croco

[LillyMist]

croc
nhaaa....cc...nhac, nhac, nhac, nhac, nhac...(croc's laughter)

lilly
hahahah.
All kinds of memories come up when I see your name croc, had a dream once as I was saying in another area of this site,, of three animals a few years ago, they were huge, one was a Panther, the other a Croc and the other a Snake.. I did not know what to make of the Croc so thank the Gods when I finally picked up the nerve to approach them the croc and snake got very tiny, but the Panter grew huge.
Anyway, that dream seems to have been a catalyst in my life.
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Folks, the weather here is terrible. And it seems like a tropical storm is forming, so I am practicing what I preach and lessening the effects using visualization, but I'm just a lil/crow, like croc is a croc n abe is a raven/crow. Then of course there are many herbas in this forest and wolves too,dreamsters and and Jerr,,koo, oooo n we all know that the summer dawn is the best view of all especially in a green forestall..etc. oh yezzzz. Even a knight of the round table,,Arthur. no no ,,didn't smoke the herb although I Castor a ssilhoute of hope upon the lot to join me in this noble task.

Earlier today a huge branch from the old oak tree fell on the roof directly overhead from where I was sitting,,that was LOUD.. for a second there I could not understand what what happening and thought of meh bros and sisses in New awwww leans.
Nite
Su

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