The Fall of the Republic (must see for americans and canadians)

[Conspiracy Freak]

[dreamgirl]

I am a liberal democrat and support Obama - I find this piece of conservative edited bullshit to be laughable.




Dreamgirl

[ignorant]

I'm beyond political sides. What's explained in that documentary is how all presidents after Kennedy are working for Wall Street.




What I found more interesting of all is that after the last bailout to the banks there is growing pressure in the congress to audit the Federal Reserve aka the
real goverment behind the scenes and currently above the United States law (because it was legistated to be like this).




The answer by the president of the federal reserve to the question "who is getting the tax payers money?" was "I'm not telling you"
(!!!)




100 years of financial impunity (no auditing of any of the actions of the "Federal" Reserve) and countless fabricated economic collapses just to
impoverish everyone and eventually take over. Democrats and republicans have been either accomplices or gullible by-standers to all this... without mentioning
the american people. I don't live there, but the same thing has been done all over the world. Now the US might fall and it's a very real possibility. I
would say: see first, judge later. It's not anti-democrat or pro-republican.

[ignorant]

http://www.examiner.com/x...e-has-vetoproof-majority




As for The Fall of the Republic:




Fall Of The Republic documents how an offshore corporate cartel is bankrupting the US economy by design. Leaders are now declaring that world government has
arrived and that the dollar will be replaced by a new global currency.




President Obama has brazenly violated Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution by seating himself at the head of United Nations' Security Council, thus
becoming the first US president to chair the world body.




A scientific dictatorship is in its final stages of completion, and laws protecting basic human rights are being abolished worldwide; an iron curtain of
high-tech tyranny is now descending over the planet.




A worldwide regime controlled by an unelected corporate elite is implementing a planetary carbon tax system that will dominate all human activity and establish
a system of neo-feudal slavery.




The image makers have carefully packaged Obama as the world's savior; he is the Trojan Horse manufactured to pacify the people just long enough for the
globalists to complete their master plan.




This film reveals the architecture of the New World Order and what the power elite have in store for humanity. More importantly it communicates how We The
People can retake control of our government, turn the criminal tide and bring the tyrants to justice.


Get Your Copy Today !!

[Gonzo]

It's not so much a fall of the Republic as it is the move to establish a one world government. Try the following:

[Hawkeye Crow]

Well, it is true that the Corporate/Financial cartel has a stranglehold on the world. What is worse is that most human beings have been drawn into Consumerism,
dependent upon continued exploitation and destruction of, Earth's lifeblood. As I am learning, this is beyond politics, this is about the survival of all
humanity, if that is to be.




This October, United Nations research concluded that, in 50 years, there will not be enough food available for the world's population. How much of this is
due to political and corporate manipulation, I do not know.




I heard a statement, from Greenpeace, I do believe, that, for all people on Earth to live at the (outdated) USA poverty level, would require the resources of
another planet. I am thinking Easter Island. In October, over one ton of bloodstained ivory was confiscated in Africa, probably Kenya. The unknown comes
nearer to the know. I could never imagine a world without elephants, although India has taken steps to protect theirs, a different species




I have been passing the following quotes around, concerning an approach to environmental issues (and some resonances with the Castaneda books and some
personal views):





... the idea that pre-industrial humans may have had some advantages over modern man. Fifty years ago, before true environmentalism became apparent, Carlos
Castaneda began his apprenticeship to Juan Matus. What he learned only seemed alien because of the altered culture of the Industrial Revolution. Outside of the
specialties of Shamanism, everything don Juan taught was once as common to humans as, well, cell phones are today.




And all those long walks in the desert! In and of themselves, they were a catalyst of concioussness renewal, as I once found within myself, and is the core of
those most commited to preservation; that industrial civilization has no divine mandate to control, pave, develop, conquer, every square inch of this planet;
that, human beings have stepped beyond the bounds; we are destroying the very process of life.




The following are statements from "Confessions of an Eco-Warrior", by Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! (now inactive)




Deep Ecology or, biocentrism: all living creatures and communities possess intrinsic value, inherent worth.Natural things exist for their own sake; Animal,
plant, river, mountain, are NOT placed here for the convenience of human beings. ( here is the Nagual teaching of getting rid of self-importance, and,
universal equality). All dominant philosophies of our time place human beings at a pre-Copernican center of the universe, separate from nature, with separate,
higher value.




Wilderness is the REAL world




There are too many people on Earth




There must be a deep questioning of, and even antipathy to, 'progress' and 'technology'. We have lost more to civilization than we have gained.
Life in a hunter-gatherer society was on the whole healthier, happier,and more secure than our lives today as peasants, industrial workers or business
executives. (once again, I see the teachings of the nagual here). Foreman qualifies this with....this does not mean we eschew all facets of civilization. We
are of it, and use it; we can still critique it.




A refusal to accept Rationality as the only way of thinking.(don Juan again, and a door to the Second attention!)




A lack of desire to gain credibility or legitimacy with the gang of thugs running human civilization (!)




An unwillingness to set any group of humans on a pedestal, immune from questioning; be it race, political, class.




An awareness that we are animals; primates, mammals, vertebrates. reject New Age babble that says we must transcend our animal nature...struggle against the
modern compulsion to become dull, passionless androids. (don Juan again!)




Earth First! is (was) a warrior society.








All good things are wild, and free.--Henry David Thoreau. And, so be it!

[ignorant]

Hawkeye Crow wrote:

Well, it is true that the Corporate/Financial cartel has a stranglehold on the world. What is worse is that most human beings have been drawn into
Consumerism, dependent upon continued exploitation and destruction of, Earth's lifeblood. As I am learning, this is beyond politics, this is about the
survival of all humanity, if that is to be.




This October, United Nations research concluded that, in 50 years, there will not be enough food available for the world's population. How much of this
is due to political and corporate manipulation, I do not know.




I heard a statement, from Greenpeace, I do believe, that, for all people on Earth to live at the (outdated) USA poverty level, would require the resources of
another planet. I am thinking Easter Island. In October, over one ton of bloodstained ivory was confiscated in Africa, probably Kenya. The unknown comes
nearer to the know. I could never imagine a world without elephants, although India has taken steps to protect theirs, a different species ....




Wilderness is the REAL world




There are too many people on Earth
Crow, IF there is such a thing as overpopulation, WHO is going to decide the measures to fix this issue and WITH WHAT KNOWLEDGE?




You? Me? An intelectual? An independent scientist? A paid scientist? A paid eco-activist organization (funded by british intelligence)? A congress? A leader?
The bankers??




Sadly... it's only rethoric. If things don't change drammatically the bankers will choose and will have paid scientists to support their policies, much
like Nazi Germany.




And bankers think that people are less than bugs. They will massively kill us all as pest control and heavily control the rest with a Police State.




In a materiallistic powerful mind, the rest of humanity are either minions, slaves or pests.




So, again... be careful with what you believe is right for the world and people.

[Hawkeye Crow]

Hi Iggy




I might win a bet if I could prove that the rich and powerful already know what fate has in store, and like the desperate ones in a story, are grabbing all
they can, in hopes that they survive and rise above the rest of us.




I might suggest that the mass of people emulate the cohorts of Seers, and, like the old ones before us, organize clans around common Spirit. Of course, some
have already, like the Hell's Angels motorcycle club! Shades of a road warrior! But seriously, large urban communities won't be able to survive,
I'll guess a time about 3 generations from now.




There are many indicators of trouble, and I don't refer to the technically confusing Climate Change issue. The oceans are dying now. Overfishing and
pollution. There have been no salmon runs on the west American coast for two years now. In the north Pacific, swirling currents have brought all the litter and
garbage of civilization into one area larger than the state of Texas. I can't keep up with it all.




I learned a fable just the other day. The old ones of the Cherokee, when told about all the wonderful new things the white strangers would trade for animal
skins, warned that at one time humans did in fact KILL TOO MANY ANIMALS. The animals took revenge and gave the humans diseases. The elders said that plants
took pity upon the people, and gave them cures for the diseases.




Don Juan said plants can tell us things. Today they tell us to remember this lesson.

[ignorant]

Hawkeye Crow wrote:

Hi Iggy




I might win a bet if I could prove that the rich and powerful already know what fate has in store, and like the desperate ones in a story, are grabbing all
they can, in hopes that they survive and rise above the rest of us.




I might suggest that the mass of people emulate the cohorts of Seers, and, like the old ones before us, organize clans around common Spirit. Of course, some
have already, like the Hell's Angels motorcycle club! Shades of a road warrior! But seriously, large urban communities won't be able to survive,
I'll guess a time about 3 generations from now.




There are many indicators of trouble, and I don't refer to the technically confusing Climate Change issue. The oceans are dying now. Overfishing and
pollution. There have been no salmon runs on the west American coast for two years now. In the north Pacific, swirling currents have brought all the litter
and garbage of civilization into one area larger than the state of Texas. I can't keep up with it all.




I learned a fable just the other day. The old ones of the Cherokee, when told about all the wonderful new things the white strangers would trade for animal
skins, warned that at one time humans did in fact KILL TOO MANY ANIMALS. The animals took revenge and gave the humans diseases. The elders said that plants
took pity upon the people, and gave them cures for the diseases.




Don Juan said plants can tell us things. Today they tell us to remember this lesson.




The (materially) powerful are really pushing the envolope towards world domination but they might end up getting something else. I couldn't say. At any
rate for these situations there are only individual solutions. Good luck with that Crow.

[ignorant]

[someguy]

Just to add my 2 cents here, I think politics, religion and news media are the most powerful separation tools as well as mass distraction tools that are used
to control the masses, I think we shouldn't pay attention to them. the world had fallen already and its too late, they are selling us the usual BS, there
seems to be too much separation within humanity as a whole, I hope one day the masses realize the only way to fix everything is to unite and create a mass of
consciousness to better the world and do away with greed/money all together and start acting like a global community with love as the main motivation/focus.




sometimes the same people who love the their country so much, with blind and lazy loyalty as well as blind hate for the other countries should consider a
global community because these are same people that turn their back on humanity for the sake of their countries/money/greed, and I do not mean a new world
order either, the new world order is all about control, the global community I wish there was is all about true freedom.




if you look back at history, these Revelations people are having now is nothing new and the element of control had always been there but it is nice to see
people waking up to these things and I think it is because of the shift that I feel is coming soon.

[Hawkeye Crow]

I have heard the recording several times now. During the 1930's depression, FD Roosevelt spoke of the wealthy monopolists as 'Economic Royalists',
no different, in their way, from the kings and popes humans have tried to overthrow so often in this millennium. He would know, coming from a wealthy family
himself. In fact, his intention was to save Capitalism from its own excesses. Those royalists wanted him dead, and still do now.




In my view, this is not about some hidden Cabal, though much is kept hidden. For instance, I have heard of a corporation that bought all water rights in
a Latino nation, and had people arrested for collecting rainwater. An interesting form of Tyranny, eh? The tyrant needs slaves.




Now it's not feudal states fighting for supremacy. With every technological tool, these royalists seek ever more bounty for their god, profit. Not even the
entire Earth becoming like Easter Island concerns them, for self importance and arrogance rule the mind. Their battles are of the air, from one end of the
planet to the other, sorta like Syrianna, the movie.

[Guest]