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The New Seers? - Billy - 06-24-2015
For days a farmer sees a crazy ass boy pass by waving his arms wildly.
Curious, he goes to the roadside.
The boy is waving pieces of chicken wire.
The farmer asks about this.
The boy tells him it is to catch chickens.
The farmer laughs, "You can't get chickens with that."
But the boy passes an hour later with a chicken under each arm.
The farmer again goes to the roadside the next day.
THe boy is waving pieces of duct tape.
The farmer asks about this.
The boy tells him it is to catch ducks.
The farmer rails, "You can't get ducks with that."
But the boy passes an hour later with a duck under each arm.
The farmer anxiuosly awaits the next day.
The boy is wildly waving **** willows.
The farmer starts to ask- instead exclaims in excitation,
"Wait for me!!! I'll go get my jacket!"
The New Seers? - Billy - 06-25-2015
I'm changing gears here, and going to the obverse of self-shame > PRIDE. Oh yeah,
Pride is a commitment to reason and high self-evaluation. If there is such a thing as virtue, then pride is the sum of them all. (reflecting zen)
The New Seers? - Billy - 06-25-2015
Bodhidharma> Zen> is about Emptiness
I am empirically familiar with emptiness, but in passive subjectivity, whereas serloco knows that and the active state.
He shows the extension outward of empty void is not separate from passivity. Further, he has studied and taken chances.
The New Seers? - Billy - 06-25-2015
Many descriptions I posit are but a disposition that I cultivate. However, I do touch these temperaments often, and they touch me in return; this is real, and effective.
The New Seers? - Billy - 06-29-2015
I want you know JJ, I was teasing and lighthearted in RF.
I want persons here to understand I am 'straight' and discreet publicly. When I share a perverse quirk, it is from an entirely anonymous platform. I wrote my book with a pen name-- though it would not bother me much to disclose anything really.
The idea I am trying to convey, is that whatever is perceptually possible to you needs to be experienced without the effect of uncomfortable self-judgement. If there are thoughts you 'must' avoid, you are fighting an uphill battle. Full acquiescence of your own personality is central to detachment further on in claiming one's freedom.
CAN'T AVOID--MUST FACE YOUR SELF AND LAUGH A LOT
The New Seers? - Billy - 06-30-2015
Enlightenment is wholeness and easiness in one's body. Detachment should be a simple and pragmatic practice, not a mystical one. The results are mystical enough.
I believe in GOD, really. I don't adhere to limited theism. The fruits of life, the
cosmos, the molestations, the wars, the violence, the goodness, the 'sins,' the religions,
the atheism, the love, the hatred, the unknown, the science, the tolerance, the
intolerance... EVERYTHING is GOD.
I say nothing here--so---GOD is nothing----unless you talk to serloco-------he knows GOD.
Funny, ... if serloco knows GOD, and GOD is nothing... serloco knows nothing.
Ask HIM if that's true. (smiles)
The New Seers? - bit shiny - 07-04-2015
interesting
when the bottom has fallen out of the barrel and you find yourself there
and then tease that self from its place to place it in place
interesting when you have built upon the fruits
and the fruits have led you into the sky
is it the same ?
then the fruit would fall from the tree as it was as the tree
then power would be shared
we venture into another awareness deviating from the one focused
yet have then forgotten the whole of where one is and has come
seeing and being
and doings
is gravity a good/bad thing
if doing away with distinction have you first cleaned the house
and if you have what then lives there
it takes fire to merge with the sky
symbolically bucket of fresh water
birthed of two sides
and seed
jungle and your own genius ? hilarious and tragic
circular thinking also
grace and gratitude
laws
the peaceful only for so long
what happens when existing spaces overlap
one theory falls into the sea and the sky sees
The New Seers? - bit shiny - 07-04-2015
cohesion / orbits
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-04-2015
I've cleaned, but yuk, its's dirty out there.
bit shiny- you are the elements and fruitiness (double entendre).
Power ? ?
Do you mean the harvest from existential duality?
Piss on that > best ask serloco > he reaps from that endless abode.
Don't you know?
Words used to illuminate 'cohesion' are redundancy.
Sometimes I forget I'm alone.
Who is bit shiny?
The New Seers? - bit shiny - 07-04-2015
then its loose translation you seek
so you will have no trouble to locate
there was a crab by the water today
did spirit lead you that way
a school of fish and another
teeming with life
and why to put pearls before swine ?
spirit led me this way
when i was a little fish in my waterhole
bit shiny who is that is who that is
hows your water hole
is it teeming with life
did spirit lead you there
like the spirit that led me there
in the loose translation
stop teaching said the teacher
how to stop teaching when i am not the teacher then
who knows from where the fish come and go
i try not to bite the other fish
sometimes it is hard
regrets we've had a few
if you dropped kindness on the door step you might find a stranger picked it up and placed the case back down
you might find the case gone
in that case you might be gone
i am gone
hello to the bears
like the frog or the crab in the net
so gone
perhaps i will wander past your step again soon
i have no place of my own to place the bag except where i roam and i roam around in the forest
i doubt you would find me in those trees though
and also the water is quite capable of speaking fire with the wind so don't be concerned
whats said and what not and whats left on the door step
like the wind
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-04-2015
Understand, I know you exist.
I just don't care too much about it,
but a smile is a smile.
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-04-2015
Since I'm here on forum, I either do care or I'm an ostentateous fool self-teaching. I happen to know it's the latter.
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-04-2015
Awww. I do care about you serloco. Poor thinger thing.
I'll pretend harder.
The New Seers? - bit shiny - 07-04-2015
i honestly don't know how every body would not have an opinion to share on the subject
i believe it something like this
once upon a time a description was given "something like this"
knowledge is a thing that will become a non thing and you will accept it as it is perfectly sound in theory do you understand ?
bear speaking to frog ........... you mean i am really not a bear any more ?
frog speaks back to bear
listen to your inner voice
what is it saying .................
bear says i want to swim in stream and eat a fish
frog says ribbit
man says i am in the sky
i am the earth
i am the void
i am this i am that
but most of all remember ................. i don't exist !
asks for agreement from frog
frog stares into pond sees fish sees bear sees pond sees human
blinks for a moment and it all dissappears
then agrees with human saying ribbit !
bear gets tired and lays down to dream about what frog and human point at
then when frog un blinks again gets squashed by bear !
human was trapped in reflection in pond so when bear woke up bear chased/ate human
another human walked by and saw the whole thing transpire and wrote it down
and just repeated it from a perspective outside the melee and knowledge unknowledge
bear ate another fish
it is probably wise to have a teacher point out where bears may be hungry and boisterous
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-04-2015
Leaving nothing to chance > (no pretending) > I intend simbiotic friendship Derek, and conceptual difference somewhere between slim and none.
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-04-2015
bear > Arrrrrrr Arrrrrrr
frog > ribbit ribbit
billy > eat me
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-07-2015
bit shiny- knowledge is a thing that will become a non thing and you will accept it as it is perfectly sound in theory do you understand ?
of course I do, but I have no bucket of fresh water, so how can my fire meet the limitless?
I am saca-billy preachy because of this, but not forever. You are welcome here, so why is it my flip remarks quiet you?
I am not as dense as the forest you work in. Still, I'm so full of my own lies the knowledge I understand cannot become empirical.
You do know this apparently.
I am working smarter bit by bit (pun even)
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-07-2015
bit shiny- knowledge is a thing that will become a non thing and you will accept it as it is perfectly sound in theory do you understand ?
of course I do, but I have no bucket of fresh water, so how can my fire meet the limitless?
I am saca-billy preachy because of this, but not forever. You are welcome here, so why is it my flip remarks quiet you?
I am not as dense as the forest you work in. Still, I'm so full of my own lies, and the knowledge I understand cannot become empirical.
You do know this apparently.
I am working smarter bit by bit (pun even bit shiny)
ADD:When I refer to lies; I mean to say I LOVE and DESIRE the dream, the illusion.
bit shiny is selling ZEN ENLIGHTENMENT.
I am opening the door here a 'bit' to bit shiny
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-07-2015
I am enamored with i disdain for a while.
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-07-2015
bit shiny- knowledge is a thing that will become a non thing and you will accept it as it is perfectly sound in theory do you understand ?
of course I do, but I have no bucket of fresh water, so how can my fire meet the limitless?
I am saca-billy preachy because of this, but not forever. You are welcome here, so why is it my flip remarks quiet you?
I am not as dense as the forest you work in. Still, I'm so full of my own lies, and the knowledge I understand cannot become empirical.
You do know this apparently.
I am working smarter bit by bit (pun even bit shiny)
ADD:When I refer to lies; I mean to say I LOVE and DESIRE the dream, the illusion.
{bit shiny is promoting ZEN ENLIGHTENMENT}
I am opening the door here a 'bit' bit shiny.
The New Seers? - bit shiny - 07-08-2015
as for bears
in the night and day sky swapping suits one for another
even bears have their place
fresh water the bear chases
or salt water the bear drinks
screws up face i don't know zen
at one time bears crossing sights
whats in your sights
a bear gets grumpy when a bear is awakened yet wants still for sleep
so is it bear awakened or sleep
they cross in the night sky and they cross in the day
if the awakened bear was not one wholy not two wholy not three wholy today
forget of one froget of two forget of three
and begin to see
all three one two and three
bear in the sky bear asleep and bear awake
now if bear does not see then bear cannot become all three
bear chasing one bear chasing two bear refers to three yet bear must see
bear is chasing bear one two three
now see what i am seeing
they passed in the night sky they pass in the day
they never ever separate and now they stay
it was not as though one was here or there and never did they play
and as they all reside here then no getting away
frog wants to speak so bear to understand
there is no here and there only cohesion and orbits perforating the way
so is it bear or frog :
actually both
bear to make fire in water knowing what it does
frog knows much but bear must pull the tug
to here to there and every where
inside outside and all around
yet fresh water inside must be found
its out and in yet it wont be found
unless bear hears perforated frog sound
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-08-2015
I say thank you bit shiny
silly billy found his fresh water
The New Seers? - Billy - 07-09-2015
Thank you bit shiny
I found my fresh water where it always is
The New Seers? - Mornings Son - 07-09-2015
OUTSTANDING STORY !!!!
thank you bit shiny ))))
i honestly don't know how every body would not have an opinion to share on the subject
i believe it something like this
once upon a time a description was given "something like this"
knowledge is a thing that will become a non thing and you will accept it as it is perfectly sound in theory do you understand ?
bear speaking to frog ........... you mean i am really not a bear any more ?
frog speaks back to bear
listen to your inner voice
what is it saying .................
bear says i want to swim in stream and eat a fish
frog says ribbit
man says i am in the sky
i am the earth
i am the void
i am this i am that
but most of all remember ................. i don't exist !
asks for agreement from frog
frog stares into pond sees fish sees bear sees pond sees human
blinks for a moment and it all dissappears
then agrees with human saying ribbit !
bear gets tired and lays down to dream about what frog and human point at
then when frog un blinks again gets squashed by bear !
human was trapped in reflection in pond so when bear woke up bear chased/ate human
another human walked by and saw the whole thing transpire and wrote it down
and just repeated it from a perspective outside the melee and knowledge unknowledge
bear ate another fish
it is probably wise to have a teacher point out where bears may be hungry and boisterous
The New Seers? - Mornings Son - 07-09-2015
Last night I encountered the Bear Spirit in a storytelling event.
It was a black bear
Ohei Bear ))))