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Was this an encounter with an IB? - osirisDJED - 05-13-2014
I wanted to share an experience with you and ask if this may have been an encounter with an inorganic being.
This experience is to this day one of the most powerful things that have ever happened.
At the time I left Ontario to go to another province, Alberta, for a spiritual get-away from every thing I knew. I figured going some where far and new will allow me to shift my life.
I feel it's related so I'm going to mention at the point I had smoked weed for about 9 years straight and it wasn't having the strong effect it once had on me. When I moved to Alberta though I didn't have a source and ended up taking a four week break, so when I did smoke I ended up getting high like it was my first time again. It was extremely strong, I was giggly and all, and decided to take the opportunity to meditate. I haven't had a chance like this since I was 13, I thought!
I laid in bed and started taking deep long breaths, as full as I can. I kept taking breaths deeper and fuller and I think I might have started to hyper-ventilate but didn’t notice. I started to feel a tingle go across my whole body and my hands started to grasp on to my belt and letting go uncontrollably. The patterns my fingers made were crazy wicked lol. I kept taking full breaths until I started to hear my heart beat. It was louder than I had ever heard it! BOOM BOOM, BOOM BOOM. I started listening to it closer since I had never heard my own heart so clearly and the sound got louder and louder until it felt like I was in the middle of a room and the walls were booming at me. My whole body was vibrating out of control, shaking the bed against the wall. My girlfriend at the time noticed and asked me if I was alright, I told her I’m fine.
At this point I realized I could see tons of colours in front of me. They were making pretty crazy geometric patterns. A rainbow of triangles, squares, circles, diamonds, god knows what else… They were flowing in lines and the lines fused in to a planet underneath me, a planet of colour and geometry. I started thinking “Why is this so cartoony? Why doesn’t this look real?”
A voice then answered me, “Real? what exactly do you mean by real?”
It seemed a little bit annoyed, and I answered “Why do I colours instead of something like forests, rivers, animals?”
Eyes appeared in front of me, giant cat eyes and were starring right at me. The being laughed and I felt it’s laughter inside of me, my face went in to a smile. “Rivers, forests, and animals? Why would you see that here? You’re foolish to question the reality of something that’s right in front of you.”
For a moment I saw a jaguar’s head on a man’s body, the eyes had morphed, but then he disappeared. I could feel every emotion and feeling going through my body, both my own and the jaguar’s. I saw my childhood playing video games, always entertained by lights, colourful lights, how the hell did I expect my inner reality to be anything else?
“Now you get it” he told me, and the vibration increased. My body was shaking as if I had hypothermia, the whole bed was rattling, and once again my ex asked me, “are you sure you’re okay?”
I opened my eyes for a moment to say that I am, but when I opened my eyes I could still see the world of colourful geometry, it was like two different experiences over-lapping each other. I couldn’t say anything so I just nodded and smiled, then closed my eyes again.
“Who are you?” I asked
He smiled through my lips and told me, “I think you already know.”
I thought of Ix, a jaguar entity I was studying for a few months prior since I was born under that sign in the tzolkin.
I asked “Why are you here?” I instantly saw a vision of limbs hanging from trees, I was a hanging severed head in a jungle looking out over my torn body. It was a bloody mess, and a bit off putting. “Will I die?”
I felt laughter roll through my core again, “of course you won’t die.”
I instantly thought of the people in the house and the fact I was already vibrating the bed against the wall in the middle of the night, “what will happen with them?”
He showed me images of the room being torn apart by a tornado, people screaming horrified, and I instantly said “No, I can’t do that.” The lady that owned the house was very conservative and helped me find a place to stay when I needed it and the thought of putting her through that experience terrified me. I felt anger, rage flow through my body and every part of my shake, my teeth snarled, “What do you mean you can’t? Why do you care? They won’t remember a thing, it’ll be as if nothing ever happened.”
I told him “I want to, but not this time.”
“WHY NOT?” everything flared for a moment, but before I answered the energy calmed down and he laughed saying “you’re not ready after all.”
I felt disappointment, and I felt embarrassed. I felt panic, “will I get this chance again?”
“When you’re ready… I will see you again, and I will tear you limb from limb” I felt a smile come across my mouth, his not mine, and then the energy faded out all together.
Before I started studying nagualism I called this a “possession”, that was the best way I could describe it. Now I’m wondering if this would be considered an inorganic being, or any other ideas what might have happened? Any way I could.. rekindle the flame per se?
Thanks in advance!
Was this an encounter with an IB? - Littlepaw - 05-13-2014
I personally think that your encounter was an encounter with the higher self. Its funny for me because I have told a friend about what I refer to as the dude. I was trying to explain to her that sometimes I experience myself as a powerful, all knowing being who actually scares the **** out of me! I don't normally feel powerful and all knowing but I have started to get to know this higher version of myself or as I affectionately term the dude.
A couple of times have been directly as a result of smoking weed, a few times mushrooms (man I take way too many drugs lol) anyway mushrooms grow out the ground so are hardly a drug. The weed in the uk is all cross bread to be super strong so I am not so keen. When I meet my higher self I feel instantly unworthy of being in the presence of myself which sounds way too schizophrenic but it’s true!
Theun Mares (the author of a series of books about the warrior’s path) said that in life we will be whatever we believe ourselves to be. I think that social conditioning or what is commonly believed in the west does not allow for us believing ourselves to be powerful creatures of the universe so I think on the Warriors path we gradually begin to see ourselves for what we really are. I think we are unable to let go of what we have lived all our lives believing ourselves to be.
I might be totally of the mark about your experience, just thought I would share what I think and see if any of it rings true for you bru?
Was this an encounter with an IB? - osirisDJED - 05-13-2014
Littlepaw wrote:I personally think that your encounter was an encounter with the higher self. Its funny for me because I have told a friend about what I refer to as the dude. I was trying to explain to her that sometimes I experience myself as a powerful, all knowing being who actually scares the **** out of me! I don't normally feel powerful and all knowing but I have started to get to know this higher version of myself or as I affectionately term the dude.
A couple of times have been directly as a result of smoking weed, a few times mushrooms (man I take way too many drugs lol) anyway mushrooms grow out the ground so are hardly a drug. The weed in the uk is all cross bread to be super strong so I am not so keen. When I meet my higher self I feel instantly unworthy of being in the presence of myself which sounds way too schizophrenic but it’s true!
Theun Mares (the author of a series of books about the warrior’s path) said that in life we will be whatever we believe ourselves to be. I think that social conditioning or what is commonly believed in the west does not allow for us believing ourselves to be powerful creatures of the universe so I think on the Warriors path we gradually begin to see ourselves for what we really are. I think we are unable to let go of what we have lived all our lives believing ourselves to be.
I might be totally of the mark about your experience, just thought I would share what I think and see if any of it rings true for you bru?
To be honest that hits the mark pretty close.. There were many times where I would meditate on my Mayan jaguar birth sign, and always thought of myself as a jaguar, but for some reason I never really connected the two together.
I guess it's for the same reason you said... It was such an overwhelming force, so ruthless, and so powerful that it gave me a more powerful experience than I could conjure up on my own. I just figured since it took over me, it wasn't me. I guess I never thought meeting the higher self would be so out of control haha.
Was this an encounter with an IB? - shamanka - 05-14-2014
the 'other' or the 'double' is all that is perceived, the 'I' is still separated from...
it hangs around, in the perceived external, until we allow it to be our 'totality of self'
it is the message..not the messenger....if you acknowledge what it shows you,,for example fear..and you reclaim back all that energy, work through your fear of having that much 'power'..till you are unconcerned by it..it becomes 'you'..it will change its 'appearance' and could show you each aspect, you are aiming to be fully present with, until it is fully known to be 'you'...and you then keep becoming,in every moment, a continuous fluidity of a dream within a dream...
Was this an encounter with an IB? - osirisDJED - 05-15-2014
shamanka wrote:the 'other' or the 'double' is all that is perceived, the 'I' is still separated from...
it hangs around, in the perceived external, until we allow it to be our 'totality of self'
it is the message..not the messenger....if you acknowledge what it shows you,,for example fear..and you reclaim back all that energy, work through your fear of having that much 'power'..till you are unconcerned by it..it becomes 'you'..it will change its 'appearance' and could show you each aspect, you are aiming to be fully present with, until it is fully known to be 'you'...and you then keep becoming,in every moment, a continuous fluidity of a dream within a dream...
Interesting, gives me something to think about.
Ever since recalling the experience and posting it here I've been able to easier remember how that energy felt in my body. I try to invoke it as much as possible and it's been pushing me to be fearless and tireless.
I was mountain biking the other day through a part of the forest I haven't been through yet and came to a long slope with three dirt paths intertwining down a pretty steep decline.
It was at least 500 meters long and had jumps, gravel, and sand pits along the snaking paths. At first I started to break as I went down but then that energy took over and with a smile I let go of the break.
Two or three times going down that madness I almost pooped myself, especially off the jumps, but my energy was contagious to my girlfriend and we both shot down the path like slithering arrows, coming to a sliding stop in the sand pits below. It was the most exhilarating feeling, most amazing rush I've ever felt. Letting in to this feeling seems to push me to my limits of both ability and safety, but at the same time delivers a full body and mind ecstasy as reward.
Was this an encounter with an IB? - Dreamer32 - 06-04-2014
I was born under Ix sign too, cristal wizzard, and I too considered myself related to jaguars since I was a child. It is on the destiny of the white wizzard to be able to cross dimensions. The experience you are relating is also known to me. The crazy and imposible colors and patterns you saw are the inorganic being itself, he came to me that way too. You may aswell consider him to be the higher self, or wathever name you give to it, it doesn´t matter. Because putting experiences into names is merely a mental task, that way you´ll never be sure of what it means and you will waste enormous amounts of time and energy by nonsense thinking (words aren´t real knowledge, regardless of who said or wrote them).
From my castanedian formation, I tend to consider it an inorganic being: an "ally". It develops a long lasting relationship with high energy sorcerers; he likes you, and you like him, althought it also scares the hell out of you at the begining, The energy rush you experience is the result of mergin at some level with him. I guess you get high mental clarity from doing that, and you may also feel a bit tired after the experience. That's how it works: you exchange energy and then you experience his energy, which is also knowledge, it has an abstract content. Now, whatever "concrete" he tells you schould be doubted, because we allways interprete foreign energy in our own way, and could be misleading to follow any interpretation as "the big prophesy". Moreover, awaiting advise from him and looking at him as a master has obvious dangers. An ally is not above us, it is parallel. It deprives our power to think of him as being something great and "superwise", like it would be doing so with any human. Aswell, would it be the higher self, surely wouldn´t he want you craving for advise, but reclaiming your own power. So it is surley wise to never dissolve your own freedom relating to him (and you wisely didn´t).
Since he came to me through my mouth the first time, I invoke him simply by jawning while I "intent him", it comes at a "reverse jawn", takes energy and leaves knowledge. It works better and deeper to contact him through a high dose of shrooms (4+ gr), but then you can´t fully control the experience plus more beings can get involved. Anyway, however you sense him or not, he is and will probably allways be around talking to you telephaticaly, something you will find challenging to differenciate from your own thoughts. You will probably find yourself learning things spontaneously, aslong as you keep balanced and silent, which at the end requires precisely not to think very much on the meaning and classification of all this stuff (and not smoking alot of pot, like you did through that 4 weeks prior to your experience). You may also start to feel stronger, faster, lighter and much more fluid in a physical sense. The white wizzard is in the trees, in the sky and the earth, he is in harmony with everything.
Hope this information will be helpfull in your way. Enjoy!
Was this an encounter with an IB? - Gold Pearl - 07-05-2014
....I am in a jungle, it is dark yet I can see quite clearly. I am
observing a jet black jaguar. She is young. She is above me on a large
bough. I observe her from an elevated position which is at the same
height as the bough. My body is standing beneath it. She leaps off the
bough arching through the black night. I hear her high pitched growl, it
echoes within me - it awakens me.
I lie in bed awake and I feel her land on me. It is as though a veil of water washes over me. I am enveloped by her.
Her
growl continues to reverberate in me. Geometric patterns appear in
pastel shades of greens and browns in my left eye. They appear to be
tiles beneath the waters.The surface of the waters is undulating gently,
quietly. The water brings beauty and silence. The vision is now in both
eyes and the undulating surface of the water is the surface of my eye.
Everything is quite except for jaguars reverberating roar. The water is
gentle and soft as silk. It reflects a tender light.
The darkness envelopes me as the vision slowly fades. There is now silence and a sensation of undulation within me.
JAGUAR
"The jaguar or American tiger is specially worshipped amongst the
numerous indigenous tribes who populate those dense jungles from the
Colombian, Venezuelan, Brazilian, and Ecuadorian Amazonian region. The
Huitores, Miranas, Muinames, Huahibos, etc., consider the tiger to be a
sacred and untouchable animal, to the point that if one of these natives
comes across one of these felines (in spite of being armed with bow and
arrows, and on many occasions armed even with fiery weapons), they
prefer to restrain their dogs and turn back, ignoring all of their
affairs, before attempting anything against the jaguar. None of them
would ever dare kill a jaguar or American tiger.
Every tribe from the Amazonian jungles is governed by two
authorities: the administrative, represented by the chief of the tribe,
and the spiritual that is incarnated by the Piachi (sorcerer in
English), who we call priests. The natives from the Amazonian jungles do
not kill the tiger because they know that the tiger is the incarnation
of one of the Piachi of their tribe; in other words, the Piachi of their
tribe can transform himself into a tiger and wander around within the
jungles.
Ocelotl-Tonatiuh, sun of tigers, one of the twenty founders of
Tenochtitlan, was the chief of the mystical tigers and priest-warrior of
the Order of the Tiger Knights. These adepts passed through terrible
ordeals before learning how to control their imagination and willpower
to the point of being capable of transforming themselves into tigers.
By taking advantage of the state between vigil and dreaming, they
transformed themselves into tigers. When their bodies had taken on the
feline shape, filled with faith and confidence in themselves, they got
up from their beds and chanted the following ritualistic formula, “We
belong to each other.” This phrase refers to the Harpocratic forces that
we talked about in the previous chapter. It also refers to themselves
and to the mental forces of the tiger that allow them to sustain
themselves within the fourth dimension with their physical bodies
transformed into tigers. Do not forget that the human body while inside
the internal worlds is elastic, ductile, and malleable.
In the Aztec Calendar that exists in the Museum of Anthropology and
History in Mexico City, we see that on each side of the face of
Tonatiuh, there are two human hearts between the feline paws of that
solar deity; two xiuhcoatl, serpents of fire, are falling down, head
first, and their jaws touch where they meet at the bottom center.
Tonatiuh points his flinted tongue at them, symbol of fire, symbol of
wisdom.
The hearts between his feline paws symbolize “the death of the initiate.” When Quetzalcoatl rises and transforms into a tiger, he tears apart the heart of the one who awakens him, until he kills within him all of the illusions of his personality and all of the attachments to those things that tied him to the Earth. Indeed, the sagacity and fury of the tiger are necessary in order to kill the human personality, so that the seven serpents of the Dragon of Wisdom (symbol of the beheaded one) become resplendent.Quetzalcoatl is the internal God of the Aztecs. His feline paws grasp the heart of the initiate in order to devour him. The neophyte receives the cross of the initiation within the earth (temple of sentiment). Cosmic initiations are reached by way of the heart, never by way of the intellect."
Was this an encounter with an IB? - Daraawiish - 07-05-2014
Very interesting! great experience
I was initiated through similiar ritual, except that I was given heart to "embrace", do you know something about this ?
Was this an encounter with an IB? - Guest - 08-21-2019