05-14-2013, 12:00 AM
The Arts of Stalking and Dreaming is a bit tricky. The Stalking Part goes well with Reason and is nicely linked to come before or after the Foreign Installation. The Dreaming Part is obviously in Dreaming section. I have to say i thought some while back about how we combine stalking and dreaming in that section. it surely has something to it, as often the two come together, but ofc they have merit when separated too.
Also it would be better to first put Nagual and then Tonal, so that at the end we have The Tonal and Support Section and not Tales of Power, which is a very interesting section with lots of good reading, and goes nicely after Mastering Awareness or even after The Arts of Stalking and Dreaming.
New Seers is also a section where each creator of their thread is kind of the king of the thread. In this sense it is made under a similar premise as is the Path of Heart section, in the sense that we hope people will listen to their heart to a big extent. Although New Seers is meant for the blog style of posting it is also there for people who want discussion under circumstances they can control (as in the past lots of threads went sideways due to other posters talking about other stuff). In this sense both sections could go under Feeling (i.e heart). But either way New Seers is still nice after Introduction, as the personal threads kind of also go nicely after introductions hehe. And yes surely can be put under Talking.
version 3
Talking - 'Ixtlan Cafe', 'Introduction', 'New Seers' (version1)
Feeling - 'Path of Heart', 'New Seers' (version2)
Will - 'Carlos Castanedas: Teachings of do Juan', 'Modern Nagualism'
Reason - The Foreign installation
Dreaming - 'The Arts of Stalking and Dreaming' (& Ravenfield)
Seeing - 'Mastering Awareness'
Nagual - 'The Tales of Power', 'Oracle'
Tonal - 'The Tonal' 'Nagual Forums - Questions and Answers'
I see this makes pairs of the sections.
Your suggested pairing I liked: 1. Reason and Talking 2. Feeling and Dreaming 3. Seeing and Will 4. Tonal and Nagual
but the pairing above is sensible too.
1. Talking and Feeling 2. Will and Reason 3. Dreaming and Seeing 4. Nagual and Tonal
best possible pairing imo:
1. Talking and Reason 2. Feeling and Seeing 3. Dreaming and Will 4. Tonal and Nagual
which would mean this order:
Talking - 'Ixtlan Cafe', 'Introduction', 'New Seers'
Reason - (The Art of Stalking,) The Foreign installation
Feeling - 'Path of Heart'
Seeing - 'Mastering Awareness'
Dreaming - 'The Art(s of Stalking and) Dreaming' (& Ravenfield)
Will - 'Carlos Castanedas: Teachings of do Juan', 'Modern Nagualism'
Nagual - 'The Tales of Power', 'Oracle'
Tonal - 'The Tonal' 'Nagual Forums - Questions and Answers'
-- of yes i also wonder why you put the CC section into Will rather than into Talking - As in talking about the books, our experiences, opinions, etc based on what we read in the book.
What would you understand as being good to put under Will? I can ofc see how CC section goes with Modern Nagualism and then how Modern Nagualism and CC is linked to Will in that sense. In my words I guess I would say it is about willing a change, or a different path.. impeccability, strong will etc.
-- some of the pairs i can see as fine even if they switch order, for example first Will then Dreaming (just like I put first Nagual and then Tonal, it makes also sense than Nagual would go after Dreaming). I can also see that different people might have a different opinion on where to put what.. (like i would understand if someone said Mastering Awareness is about Will and Modern Nagualism could go into Seeing cause it could be about what we see for the new lineages and CC's legacy). But either way I like that you brought this order of a scheme here.. we shall see where it leads , maybe people will have a look here and tell us what they think/feel about putting the sections in the order you (or I) proposed..
version 4
Talking - 'Ixtlan Cafe', 'Introduction', 'New Seers', 'Carlos Castanedas: Teachings of do Juan'
Reason - The Foreign installation
Feeling - 'Path of Heart'
Seeing - 'Mastering Awareness'
Dreaming - 'The Arts of Stalking and Dreaming' (& Ravenfield)
Will - 'Modern Nagualism'
Nagual - 'The Tales of Power', 'Oracle'
Tonal - 'The Tonal' 'Nagual Forums - Questions and Answers'
-- well, back to moving threads. letting this settle a bit and we shall see what we get . thnx for chiming in, surely an interesting thing you put here for consideration. Hope you will stick around long enough to see the end result, and nice to see you back at the site
Also it would be better to first put Nagual and then Tonal, so that at the end we have The Tonal and Support Section and not Tales of Power, which is a very interesting section with lots of good reading, and goes nicely after Mastering Awareness or even after The Arts of Stalking and Dreaming.
New Seers is also a section where each creator of their thread is kind of the king of the thread. In this sense it is made under a similar premise as is the Path of Heart section, in the sense that we hope people will listen to their heart to a big extent. Although New Seers is meant for the blog style of posting it is also there for people who want discussion under circumstances they can control (as in the past lots of threads went sideways due to other posters talking about other stuff). In this sense both sections could go under Feeling (i.e heart). But either way New Seers is still nice after Introduction, as the personal threads kind of also go nicely after introductions hehe. And yes surely can be put under Talking.
version 3
Talking - 'Ixtlan Cafe', 'Introduction', 'New Seers' (version1)
Feeling - 'Path of Heart', 'New Seers' (version2)
Will - 'Carlos Castanedas: Teachings of do Juan', 'Modern Nagualism'
Reason - The Foreign installation
Dreaming - 'The Arts of Stalking and Dreaming' (& Ravenfield)
Seeing - 'Mastering Awareness'
Nagual - 'The Tales of Power', 'Oracle'
Tonal - 'The Tonal' 'Nagual Forums - Questions and Answers'
I see this makes pairs of the sections.
Your suggested pairing I liked: 1. Reason and Talking 2. Feeling and Dreaming 3. Seeing and Will 4. Tonal and Nagual
but the pairing above is sensible too.
1. Talking and Feeling 2. Will and Reason 3. Dreaming and Seeing 4. Nagual and Tonal
best possible pairing imo:
1. Talking and Reason 2. Feeling and Seeing 3. Dreaming and Will 4. Tonal and Nagual
which would mean this order:
Talking - 'Ixtlan Cafe', 'Introduction', 'New Seers'
Reason - (The Art of Stalking,) The Foreign installation
Feeling - 'Path of Heart'
Seeing - 'Mastering Awareness'
Dreaming - 'The Art(s of Stalking and) Dreaming' (& Ravenfield)
Will - 'Carlos Castanedas: Teachings of do Juan', 'Modern Nagualism'
Nagual - 'The Tales of Power', 'Oracle'
Tonal - 'The Tonal' 'Nagual Forums - Questions and Answers'
-- of yes i also wonder why you put the CC section into Will rather than into Talking - As in talking about the books, our experiences, opinions, etc based on what we read in the book.
What would you understand as being good to put under Will? I can ofc see how CC section goes with Modern Nagualism and then how Modern Nagualism and CC is linked to Will in that sense. In my words I guess I would say it is about willing a change, or a different path.. impeccability, strong will etc.
-- some of the pairs i can see as fine even if they switch order, for example first Will then Dreaming (just like I put first Nagual and then Tonal, it makes also sense than Nagual would go after Dreaming). I can also see that different people might have a different opinion on where to put what.. (like i would understand if someone said Mastering Awareness is about Will and Modern Nagualism could go into Seeing cause it could be about what we see for the new lineages and CC's legacy). But either way I like that you brought this order of a scheme here.. we shall see where it leads , maybe people will have a look here and tell us what they think/feel about putting the sections in the order you (or I) proposed..
version 4
Talking - 'Ixtlan Cafe', 'Introduction', 'New Seers', 'Carlos Castanedas: Teachings of do Juan'
Reason - The Foreign installation
Feeling - 'Path of Heart'
Seeing - 'Mastering Awareness'
Dreaming - 'The Arts of Stalking and Dreaming' (& Ravenfield)
Will - 'Modern Nagualism'
Nagual - 'The Tales of Power', 'Oracle'
Tonal - 'The Tonal' 'Nagual Forums - Questions and Answers'
-- well, back to moving threads. letting this settle a bit and we shall see what we get . thnx for chiming in, surely an interesting thing you put here for consideration. Hope you will stick around long enough to see the end result, and nice to see you back at the site

