05-21-2013, 12:00 AM
subforums dont look too good on the index page, they kinda screw up the spacing, put a big space under the subsection scroller, but yea its a cosmetic issue lol, but Id still like the site to look nice. As it was just before i moved stuff today (eer now at time of posting this was 4-5days ago) i saw that when Transformers, Modern Nagualism and Tales of Power each had a subsection that the main index page looked pretty messy.. Which is why i changed it a bit.
We are still looking at the Path of Heart section, as it is still not set in stone how we shall go about it (so to speak).
There is one thing that I realized as I put attention on emotion/feelings for the purposes of this thread/site.. To talk about feelings, to actually analyse them as some did in The Arts of S&D one needs to be very open. more open than this site lately allowed on its public part. If I would do this here I would want a place that is safe and many would probably choose somewhere where they can delete it or edit out some parts if they choose so later. In that sense we could make Path of Heart be that section.. but as it seems now Path of Heart may become the section with more disagreements and venting, so that kinda doesnt go together all that well. New Seers section is the safest place for the creator of the thread, i am putting personal and recap threads there atm.
I found in my experience that emotions are rewarding to track in our fight with the foreign mind (ofc they are linked to thoughts too..). Atm I am focusing on moving stuff so this I just came to write cause i am still focused mainly on the 2 new planned sections. And I do get it how Path of Heart is basically welcoming what you suggest and would be the perfect place for it . So yea.. sigh..
White Knight wrote:You know I became intrigued how you expect to be guided by spirit. I would like to ask realllly serious question. Are you in direct contact with spirit through Tonal tool(cards and millions similar)? Or to be manifested through seeing and dreaming, maybe through feeling of being ruthless?
I dont expect, I ask and try to be as attentive as i can to catch what may be offered me as help/guidance.
Either way it is not an exact science (at least not to me at this point in my life, i dont know if it can be hehe). I surely didnt use cards for this, though it is a fine suggestion to use cards/stones etc. I am not sure now if youre asking me in general or specifically about this site, but since here is the example I will tell you about that.
answers/guidance can show up in all sorts of ways. For example by omens, which are identifiable by a specific feeling or density or how to call it a change that happens when they happen that gets your attention (you probably know what i mean..). Had a few of those..
Then I ofc work with dreaming. The night before I started moving this changing (moving of threads, creating new sections etc) I had a dream where I was doing it. This got me to finally start something I have been looking to do for a few months now. That day it felt it is the right time. After moving a bit and feeling into the site and stuff, 2 days after the dream i just mentioned, I had another dream. In it I saw behind the hood of this place (and I dont mean the Admin panel ). I called it the living core of this site let itself be accessed and felt. It is alive, shifting/changing slightly. My feeling is that it showed itself to us (it was not just me in the dream) so that we can create the vision/form of the site in a better way thnx to seeing its more hidden parts/ accessing its feeling. I have been connecting to this feeling of the site's presence/consciousness while working here. In general feeling it and taking that feeling into this reality has helped guide me to an important extent. Looking at it i could take in a certain direction that is needed for this place. Hope that makes sense . I could go into more detail about what I saw, but i am still processing it and even to write this much has taken me a few days as I was not sure what i should and should not say about it.
We witnessed things open up for our eyes/perception. I realize I am an admin/mod for not just the people. The sites also needs something and by helping her (felt to me like a female presence) we help everyone coming here.
Feeling the core, feeling what was shown in the dream was most helpful to me. I understood a little through feeling it, but what i am surely gonna do my best at is keeping that feeling alive while i look at everything that is being done here to see how it corresponds and fits, what it does, how this 'feeling' feels about it. Now, this dream did not tell me what sections to make or in what order (though in dreams before i even got this job i saw hidden sections of this site in dreams that I would one day like to see happen in tonal too). But what is important is to be natural to the site, go with the natural current of this place. Do things that are ok for the site. The site is a hm not sure how to call it, an entity of its own. Power spots are like that and this place has had powerful people coming here for over a decade, it is natural that it also evolves.
So that was about dreaming..
Most importantly, I work with PEOPLE . People are as much messengers of spirit as are animals or occurrences (synchronicities, happenings, omens). Like say you came here out of the blue just when we needed you to say something you said something and put my/our attention on an aspect that I would not have thought of until I would be done moving stuff (or not even then). But looking at stuff after your post here gives me a whole new dimension to witness as I am moving the threads, which is helpful to me, cause as I am going over each thread I am moving I can also look now at the... is it talk, reason, feeling, seeing, dreaming, will.. etc and which section incorporates what best. This is also why i could explain to you how it is in our CC section as opposed to our Modern Nagualism or Mastering Awareness section (which I hope was understandable).
working at being open and listening after asking and/or after not asking. I have stuff i am not clear on atm, but some stuff i was not clear on yesterday has already cleared up today, so yay . Seeing what is transpiring in these transition days is helping me be clearer on how to go at some things.
There are tonal tools I use (such as drum, rattle..), though im not sure i should call them tonal tools as they are (among other things) a means to get me in clearer contact with guiding spirits if i need that, but i have not used this to ask about the site stuff, at least not so far, but i am going to incorporate this helpful tools at one point, which i have seen ahead for a few days now.
I know you asked about my personal contact with spirit for your reasons, but i would like to add to what i said here that it is important that (apart from trying to be as attentive to these above mentioned 'things', beings and occurrences, as I can) I have people i can talk to and consult things with and i can listen to other opinions and that is most helpful. Thnx to the mods here (and their link to spirit and their spirit helpers) , and thnx to the support, feedback and suggestions from the people who come to this site . The people's support for this site is important (it influences not just this side of reality), and is helpful for any person seeking to also help this place and make it better for its current and future members.
(sry for delayed response, had this message ready like 3 days ago but i wanted to reread it and didnt find time for that until now. the stuff i said i was not clear on at that moment of writing has been cleared up in the next day or two as well )
We are still looking at the Path of Heart section, as it is still not set in stone how we shall go about it (so to speak).
There is one thing that I realized as I put attention on emotion/feelings for the purposes of this thread/site.. To talk about feelings, to actually analyse them as some did in The Arts of S&D one needs to be very open. more open than this site lately allowed on its public part. If I would do this here I would want a place that is safe and many would probably choose somewhere where they can delete it or edit out some parts if they choose so later. In that sense we could make Path of Heart be that section.. but as it seems now Path of Heart may become the section with more disagreements and venting, so that kinda doesnt go together all that well. New Seers section is the safest place for the creator of the thread, i am putting personal and recap threads there atm.
I found in my experience that emotions are rewarding to track in our fight with the foreign mind (ofc they are linked to thoughts too..). Atm I am focusing on moving stuff so this I just came to write cause i am still focused mainly on the 2 new planned sections. And I do get it how Path of Heart is basically welcoming what you suggest and would be the perfect place for it . So yea.. sigh..
White Knight wrote:You know I became intrigued how you expect to be guided by spirit. I would like to ask realllly serious question. Are you in direct contact with spirit through Tonal tool(cards and millions similar)? Or to be manifested through seeing and dreaming, maybe through feeling of being ruthless?
I dont expect, I ask and try to be as attentive as i can to catch what may be offered me as help/guidance.
Either way it is not an exact science (at least not to me at this point in my life, i dont know if it can be hehe). I surely didnt use cards for this, though it is a fine suggestion to use cards/stones etc. I am not sure now if youre asking me in general or specifically about this site, but since here is the example I will tell you about that.
answers/guidance can show up in all sorts of ways. For example by omens, which are identifiable by a specific feeling or density or how to call it a change that happens when they happen that gets your attention (you probably know what i mean..). Had a few of those..
Then I ofc work with dreaming. The night before I started moving this changing (moving of threads, creating new sections etc) I had a dream where I was doing it. This got me to finally start something I have been looking to do for a few months now. That day it felt it is the right time. After moving a bit and feeling into the site and stuff, 2 days after the dream i just mentioned, I had another dream. In it I saw behind the hood of this place (and I dont mean the Admin panel ). I called it the living core of this site let itself be accessed and felt. It is alive, shifting/changing slightly. My feeling is that it showed itself to us (it was not just me in the dream) so that we can create the vision/form of the site in a better way thnx to seeing its more hidden parts/ accessing its feeling. I have been connecting to this feeling of the site's presence/consciousness while working here. In general feeling it and taking that feeling into this reality has helped guide me to an important extent. Looking at it i could take in a certain direction that is needed for this place. Hope that makes sense . I could go into more detail about what I saw, but i am still processing it and even to write this much has taken me a few days as I was not sure what i should and should not say about it.
We witnessed things open up for our eyes/perception. I realize I am an admin/mod for not just the people. The sites also needs something and by helping her (felt to me like a female presence) we help everyone coming here.
Feeling the core, feeling what was shown in the dream was most helpful to me. I understood a little through feeling it, but what i am surely gonna do my best at is keeping that feeling alive while i look at everything that is being done here to see how it corresponds and fits, what it does, how this 'feeling' feels about it. Now, this dream did not tell me what sections to make or in what order (though in dreams before i even got this job i saw hidden sections of this site in dreams that I would one day like to see happen in tonal too). But what is important is to be natural to the site, go with the natural current of this place. Do things that are ok for the site. The site is a hm not sure how to call it, an entity of its own. Power spots are like that and this place has had powerful people coming here for over a decade, it is natural that it also evolves.
So that was about dreaming..
Most importantly, I work with PEOPLE . People are as much messengers of spirit as are animals or occurrences (synchronicities, happenings, omens). Like say you came here out of the blue just when we needed you to say something you said something and put my/our attention on an aspect that I would not have thought of until I would be done moving stuff (or not even then). But looking at stuff after your post here gives me a whole new dimension to witness as I am moving the threads, which is helpful to me, cause as I am going over each thread I am moving I can also look now at the... is it talk, reason, feeling, seeing, dreaming, will.. etc and which section incorporates what best. This is also why i could explain to you how it is in our CC section as opposed to our Modern Nagualism or Mastering Awareness section (which I hope was understandable).
working at being open and listening after asking and/or after not asking. I have stuff i am not clear on atm, but some stuff i was not clear on yesterday has already cleared up today, so yay . Seeing what is transpiring in these transition days is helping me be clearer on how to go at some things.
There are tonal tools I use (such as drum, rattle..), though im not sure i should call them tonal tools as they are (among other things) a means to get me in clearer contact with guiding spirits if i need that, but i have not used this to ask about the site stuff, at least not so far, but i am going to incorporate this helpful tools at one point, which i have seen ahead for a few days now.
I know you asked about my personal contact with spirit for your reasons, but i would like to add to what i said here that it is important that (apart from trying to be as attentive to these above mentioned 'things', beings and occurrences, as I can) I have people i can talk to and consult things with and i can listen to other opinions and that is most helpful. Thnx to the mods here (and their link to spirit and their spirit helpers) , and thnx to the support, feedback and suggestions from the people who come to this site . The people's support for this site is important (it influences not just this side of reality), and is helpful for any person seeking to also help this place and make it better for its current and future members.
(sry for delayed response, had this message ready like 3 days ago but i wanted to reread it and didnt find time for that until now. the stuff i said i was not clear on at that moment of writing has been cleared up in the next day or two as well )