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Why Bother?
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I don't understand how you're all still on the sorcerer's path. And sorry, but I can't bring myself to believe that any of you are actual seers or warriors. I have been "trying" to focus on silence and what really matters lately but it's way too hard. The enemy has bested us in a fashion that is beyond our language. It is truly horrible what is going on, and the more I try the more I see it. I don't think one can actually practice sorcery without a teacher. Here are some excerpts from the books

ANOTHER SORCERER IS NEEDED TO GUIDE A NOVICE IN THE NAGUAL
We cannot be on our own while being in the left side awareness and have to be cushioned by warriors who have gained totality of themselves and know how to handle themselves in that state. EG,299.

BECOMING AN APPRENTICE WAS NOT A PERSONAL CHOICE, BUT A DESIGN OF POWER
neither is it a matter of personal choice who is selected to learn the sorcerer's knowledge that leads to that awareness. The decision of picking you was a design of power; no one can discern the designs of power. TOP,58.

THE SPIRIT SOMETIMES HAS TO TRICK A PERSON INTO BECOMING AN APPRENTICE
only a crackpot would undertake the task of becoming a man of knowledge of his own accord. A sober headed man has to be tricked into it. SR,28
...because of man's unwillingness to understand, the spirit was forced to use trickery. And trickery became the essence of the sorcerer's path. POS, 23
Sorcerer's are convinced that all of us are a bunch of nincompoops..we can never relinquish control voluntarily (of our tonal) thus we have to be tricked...you were convinced that that trickery was directed at fooling your reason...for me, tricking meant to distract your attention, or to trap it as the case required. TOP, 232

The way I see it, all of you who are stuck between the world of a sorcerer and the world of an ordinary man are in a most horrible limbo of your own doings, as am I. Defining sorcery as shifting the AP, I'm sure there are many here who have flirted with it and can be called sorcerers, but warriors...? How can you possibly endure the warrior's life without a teacher? Think about the unbelievable complexity of Don Juan's teaching over the years and how his lineage developed it. As far as I can see, most ones on this forum are people who have or are trying to have somewhat polished tonals (maybe even clean ones) whilst flirting with sorcery. But I don't see how a sad bunch like us can possibly have any chances of attempting the flight into the abstract without being obliterated by the forces of infinity.
I will still do my best at everything I do and whenever I have enough emphasis I will try to obtain inner silence. I will also keep on practice dreaming and continuously clean and polish my tonal, but other than that, I see nothing. Like Carlos feels about his father; I never had a chance.
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Why Bother? - by SilvioManuel - 12-31-2018, 12:00 AM
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