03-25-2014, 12:00 AM
I felt much the same way as Julio about your post Shamanka. You portray yourself as beyond our reach. Are you going to abandon your initial impulse? I disagree with Julio about the meaning of Kelly Marceaus post. I think that we all have needs in relationships and it is our right to express ourselves if these needs are not met. I cant remember a time I felt the need to protest that my relationship needs are not being met and on the other hand I know women personally who do not have their needs met and It is clear to me that women in general do not seem to have their relationship needs met.
I would like to make the comparison between business relationships and romantic relationships. We might have different values on what constitutes a good business relationship but usually if someone feels they are not getting what they originally signed up to in business don't they have the right to speak up about it? they may even have a case legally. Here is a customer complaint.
'' The list of issues goes on and on, and sadly as I write having had my complaints escalated (my premier manager agreed with all the issues) I am still waiting for a proper response having raised the matter in early December. Their own policy promises to keep you informed!!
I have never experienced such terrible service nor such a lack of interest , I will update when and if I actually get some professional response.''
In my experience working in business customers like this usually have the wrong end of the stick and will say anything to get their message across because they feel they are not being listened to. Here is my issue with what Julio is saying I think women in general feel like they are not listened to. I know it is a sweeping statement but this why I think people like Kelly Marceau are posting. To me Kelly is like a poorly treated customer, she knows our business could be improved but we are all individuals so what Kelly has to say is not going to fit for many people.
I know it happens but I've never been mistreated by a women (except my mother) I have always been the one who needs to treat other better. Julio I think the message here is about being more considerate and hearing people out. What i would like to know is why you feel Kelly Marceau views are hurtful?
I would like to make the comparison between business relationships and romantic relationships. We might have different values on what constitutes a good business relationship but usually if someone feels they are not getting what they originally signed up to in business don't they have the right to speak up about it? they may even have a case legally. Here is a customer complaint.
'' The list of issues goes on and on, and sadly as I write having had my complaints escalated (my premier manager agreed with all the issues) I am still waiting for a proper response having raised the matter in early December. Their own policy promises to keep you informed!!
I have never experienced such terrible service nor such a lack of interest , I will update when and if I actually get some professional response.''
In my experience working in business customers like this usually have the wrong end of the stick and will say anything to get their message across because they feel they are not being listened to. Here is my issue with what Julio is saying I think women in general feel like they are not listened to. I know it is a sweeping statement but this why I think people like Kelly Marceau are posting. To me Kelly is like a poorly treated customer, she knows our business could be improved but we are all individuals so what Kelly has to say is not going to fit for many people.
I know it happens but I've never been mistreated by a women (except my mother) I have always been the one who needs to treat other better. Julio I think the message here is about being more considerate and hearing people out. What i would like to know is why you feel Kelly Marceau views are hurtful?

