05-27-2011, 12:00 AM
Wei Shan Yang wrote:I perhaps falsely think a day will come when there is no more sadness...but now I doubt that. When I really consider fully about that belief, I know some of my happiest moments were born from extreme states of sadness. Like a phoenix rising from the ashes to be reborn...arrrgggghhh, its just having to endure/acquiescence to the sadness. Otherwise the phoenix will not rise again. But always and evermore it is JOY I seek. The warrior has to be careful...joy can be a tonal beckoning, a trap to root into a tonal exisitence and accept limitations along with. So is it really joy the warrior seeks? Or liberation and the joy in that? Being with Power is the JOY that always is new to itself. The Mystery.
Hello,
a warrior / shaman has a link with sadness. Something is out there and it comes and we feel sadness. Sadness is sometimes our own and sometimes it is this general sadness. We need to accept it and let it flow through us. For me this feeling of sadness is often mixed with longing that helps us seek further and learn and connect with ourselves and the Spirit. This feeling of sadness is not a bad feeling. Sometimes, especially when younger, I felt it so strong that it felt like my heart could break, but at that time it was also influenced by my circumstances and therefore went into pain. Still this feeling made me examine reality and seek nature, and stalk the force, seek power, so to speak. Therefore I could say that sadness (a big profound one, bordering on pain) can be a gateway to knowledge. This feeling of longing is very important in my opinion.
Just a few days ago I listened to an explanation concerning sadness, about how there are two types of sadness one static and the other dynamic. This helped me to look at the feeling of sadness and get a more detailed analysis of what I already knew. Basically, there are two types of sadness. One is dynamic and lifts us up. The other is static and used to push from our other brim of ourselves (when we are on the borders of our being so to speak).
So on the one hand, sadness (the dynamic kind) lifts us up, and on the other we need to act ourselves to lift ourselves up. So, sometimes we need to push and thus lift ourselves up - this is what the feeling of longing that I was talking about does. We have to want this. We are sad / longing for the Spirit. Kind of similarly to a feeling of homesickness (this is what comes closest to the term I have in mind, only in English there is the element of home in it, which might or might not be helpfull). The feeling can be so strong that we are almost, or can be in tears.
A shaman is not about the fact that he/she does not have sadness. They have sadness. And the strength of the shaman is in the fact that he/she can work/operate with this sadness. Sadness is a bit out of our reach, like dusk - this is the first type of sadness, the dynamic one.
the 2nd, static, type is that we are ready to fight for ourselves, to take care of ourselves. We only have ourselves here.. Therefore this feeling of longing after activated is something one should not do away with. We should be thankful for it. And be ready when the Spirit manifests itself, not have any preconceptions about Spirit.
What I found is that after meeting the Spirit (kind of like the first personal manifestation of it, but not sure if one can precisely describe it like this), after this great awesome moment is over, that we feel longing, we feel sadness. And that is because of the separateness. This feeling therefore is spot on and if we feel it we activate the fact that we wish, long for, want a better/closer relationship with the Spirit.
I of course do not know where you, lonewolf, wei and bob may, stand. But for me I find this interesting and decided to share this after I read what Wei posted.
Hello,
a warrior / shaman has a link with sadness. Something is out there and it comes and we feel sadness. Sadness is sometimes our own and sometimes it is this general sadness. We need to accept it and let it flow through us. For me this feeling of sadness is often mixed with longing that helps us seek further and learn and connect with ourselves and the Spirit. This feeling of sadness is not a bad feeling. Sometimes, especially when younger, I felt it so strong that it felt like my heart could break, but at that time it was also influenced by my circumstances and therefore went into pain. Still this feeling made me examine reality and seek nature, and stalk the force, seek power, so to speak. Therefore I could say that sadness (a big profound one, bordering on pain) can be a gateway to knowledge. This feeling of longing is very important in my opinion.
Just a few days ago I listened to an explanation concerning sadness, about how there are two types of sadness one static and the other dynamic. This helped me to look at the feeling of sadness and get a more detailed analysis of what I already knew. Basically, there are two types of sadness. One is dynamic and lifts us up. The other is static and used to push from our other brim of ourselves (when we are on the borders of our being so to speak).
So on the one hand, sadness (the dynamic kind) lifts us up, and on the other we need to act ourselves to lift ourselves up. So, sometimes we need to push and thus lift ourselves up - this is what the feeling of longing that I was talking about does. We have to want this. We are sad / longing for the Spirit. Kind of similarly to a feeling of homesickness (this is what comes closest to the term I have in mind, only in English there is the element of home in it, which might or might not be helpfull). The feeling can be so strong that we are almost, or can be in tears.
A shaman is not about the fact that he/she does not have sadness. They have sadness. And the strength of the shaman is in the fact that he/she can work/operate with this sadness. Sadness is a bit out of our reach, like dusk - this is the first type of sadness, the dynamic one.
the 2nd, static, type is that we are ready to fight for ourselves, to take care of ourselves. We only have ourselves here.. Therefore this feeling of longing after activated is something one should not do away with. We should be thankful for it. And be ready when the Spirit manifests itself, not have any preconceptions about Spirit.
What I found is that after meeting the Spirit (kind of like the first personal manifestation of it, but not sure if one can precisely describe it like this), after this great awesome moment is over, that we feel longing, we feel sadness. And that is because of the separateness. This feeling therefore is spot on and if we feel it we activate the fact that we wish, long for, want a better/closer relationship with the Spirit.
I of course do not know where you, lonewolf, wei and bob may, stand. But for me I find this interesting and decided to share this after I read what Wei posted.