05-29-2011, 12:00 AM
Bob May wrote:What you describe is not uncommon. There is a sorrow that comes with experiencing things of the Spirit. It is because we have to come back here. It is also because we see so much blindness and disinterest in spiritual things in those around us.
This too shall pass...
Although I agree that sadness is also caused by the lot of the fellow man I was stressing more the very private and intimate relationship between ourselves and the Spirit.
Thank you for sharing the Ecclasiastes. I admire your path through these texts, and really wonder how you can make sense of them all (also meaning how you can show them having sense) . Most of all I used to wonder at how they really say stuff and are meaningful. However, because this form is so alien to me I surely most value spoken words from one's own heart. Those I can best feel and answer. Still, I really like reading your "bible posts" .
However you saying “This too shall pass” makes it seem like one day there will be no sadness, whereas the quotes you posted are just saying there is time for happiness and time for sadness etc, just like there is time for dawn and time for dusk, which does not mean that one day there will be no dawn or no dusk.. I agree with the quotes, there is time for sadness (to weep) and time for happiness (to laugh). Both are valid and natural. So, I wonder how you meant it.
I am not that far to see, but have it from an excellent source that it will not pass very soon (to say the least) .
Bob May wrote:In the Qabalah, that abyss is called Daath, (Knowledge)
This is knowledge that is experiential in it's character. Becoming "one with" something as a man and wife become one body during intercourse.
But to cross that abyss is not possible for "Natural Man."
What would you compare this abyss to in CC's teachings? Is it the loss of human forms? In shamanic terms it would be death I guess, how they die and come back again. When reading your posts I often read Daath as Death . This concept you write about is something totally new, I have no knowledge of it, so I am trying to understand it through what I know..
P.S. Bob, some of your posts are hard to read, because you use a similar font color to the overall background of the forum (here it is actually better than in other discussions where the background itself is black, which makes it practically invisible). I need to highlight them to read them, but sometimes you mix this color and that and it is not clear that there is another sentence in a different color following. Sometimes I highlight all your posts, just to be sure I did not miss anything. Kind of inconvenient .
This too shall pass...
Although I agree that sadness is also caused by the lot of the fellow man I was stressing more the very private and intimate relationship between ourselves and the Spirit.
Thank you for sharing the Ecclasiastes. I admire your path through these texts, and really wonder how you can make sense of them all (also meaning how you can show them having sense) . Most of all I used to wonder at how they really say stuff and are meaningful. However, because this form is so alien to me I surely most value spoken words from one's own heart. Those I can best feel and answer. Still, I really like reading your "bible posts" .
However you saying “This too shall pass” makes it seem like one day there will be no sadness, whereas the quotes you posted are just saying there is time for happiness and time for sadness etc, just like there is time for dawn and time for dusk, which does not mean that one day there will be no dawn or no dusk.. I agree with the quotes, there is time for sadness (to weep) and time for happiness (to laugh). Both are valid and natural. So, I wonder how you meant it.
I am not that far to see, but have it from an excellent source that it will not pass very soon (to say the least) .
Bob May wrote:In the Qabalah, that abyss is called Daath, (Knowledge)
This is knowledge that is experiential in it's character. Becoming "one with" something as a man and wife become one body during intercourse.
But to cross that abyss is not possible for "Natural Man."
What would you compare this abyss to in CC's teachings? Is it the loss of human forms? In shamanic terms it would be death I guess, how they die and come back again. When reading your posts I often read Daath as Death . This concept you write about is something totally new, I have no knowledge of it, so I am trying to understand it through what I know..
P.S. Bob, some of your posts are hard to read, because you use a similar font color to the overall background of the forum (here it is actually better than in other discussions where the background itself is black, which makes it practically invisible). I need to highlight them to read them, but sometimes you mix this color and that and it is not clear that there is another sentence in a different color following. Sometimes I highlight all your posts, just to be sure I did not miss anything. Kind of inconvenient .