07-03-2006, 12:00 AM
I agree, it is a good and interesting task
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But we must all agree, that finding those gates isn't much worthy without awareness. And awareness in dreaming is achieved by lucidity (being lucid=being aware) and by seeing your body sleeping, because then you are your double, that is a true dreaming and you are undoubtly aware(you wouldn't be there if you haven't fallen consciously into sleep - not that you necesarily need to look at your body sleeping and waste energy, but to be in that level of awareness is necesarry).
So, to find a gates, first you should get aware, otherwise you won't be aware of the gates in front of you.
True dreaming takes effort: endless effort - life time training, even more lifetimes training, but it only is a road to higher levels of awareness and a road to another worlds.
So, more we are aware in dream, more gates we find and clearer our perception and remembering is.
I think we cannot separate things and steps of achieving awareness in dreamworld (if we do that we aren't complete in what we do); how to find a gates if you are not aware? How to intend there if you are not aware?
Even it you do pass them, what sense does it make? How to look for the wall of fog if you are in the middle of some ordinar dream, unaware and controlled by your own thoughts?
Finding a wall of fog or any gates requires awareness! Any sorcery requires awareness, otherwise it is not a sorcery!
Wall of fog or gates can't be reached in unaware statement, or even if it is reached in that statement we won't probably remember it. You remember only something what you are aware of, only when you are conscious you have a freedom to remember and to act aware in any domain of existence.
So, lets combine it all, lets do entire task, not just part of it, lets be complete and do dreaming as it should be done; truly, completely and with huge deal of patience and effort..
Gates will come with awareness, seeing will come with awareness, perception will clear with awareness and energy will increase with awareness.
So, from my point of view and experience I can only say this:
1. Fall aware into sleep.
2. Lift up from body.
3. Remember and intent to find a gates or wall of fog.
4. Do not loose awareness when passing the gates.
4. Don't get caught by emotions when you awaken, like ''Oh,
I haven't managed to do that
(, I never will...''.
We will, but it takes time!!!
If you are in simple lucid dream...:
1. Get lucid inside a dream, or get lucid when you see a gate.
2. Remember an intent to look for gates.
3. Increase level of awareness because then you will be able to stay lucid long enough to find and pass a gates.
(I increase level of awareness in dreaming by chanting certain words).
4. Do not loose awareness while passing the gates!
Good luck, and lets give our best..
Castor''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien
...But we must all agree, that finding those gates isn't much worthy without awareness
. And awareness in dreaming is achieved by lucidity (being lucid=being aware) and by seeing your body sleeping, because then you are your double, that is a true dreaming and you are undoubtly aware(you wouldn't be there if you haven't fallen consciously into sleep - not that you necesarily need to look at your body sleeping and waste energy, but to be in that level of awareness is necesarry).So, to find a gates, first you should get aware, otherwise you won't be aware of the gates in front of you.
True dreaming takes effort: endless effort - life time training, even more lifetimes training, but it only is a road to higher levels of awareness and a road to another worlds.
So, more we are aware in dream, more gates we find and clearer our perception and remembering is.
I think we cannot separate things and steps of achieving awareness in dreamworld (if we do that we aren't complete in what we do); how to find a gates if you are not aware? How to intend there if you are not aware?
Even it you do pass them, what sense does it make? How to look for the wall of fog if you are in the middle of some ordinar dream, unaware and controlled by your own thoughts?
Finding a wall of fog or any gates requires awareness! Any sorcery requires awareness, otherwise it is not a sorcery!
Wall of fog or gates can't be reached in unaware statement, or even if it is reached in that statement we won't probably remember it. You remember only something what you are aware of, only when you are conscious you have a freedom to remember and to act aware in any domain of existence.
So, lets combine it all, lets do entire task, not just part of it, lets be complete and do dreaming as it should be done; truly, completely and with huge deal of patience and effort..
Gates will come with awareness, seeing will come with awareness, perception will clear with awareness and energy will increase with awareness.
So, from my point of view and experience I can only say this:
1. Fall aware into sleep.
2. Lift up from body.
3. Remember and intent to find a gates or wall of fog.
4. Do not loose awareness when passing the gates.
4. Don't get caught by emotions when you awaken, like ''Oh,
I haven't managed to do that
(, I never will...''.We will, but it takes time!!!
If you are in simple lucid dream...:
1. Get lucid inside a dream, or get lucid when you see a gate.
2. Remember an intent to look for gates.
3. Increase level of awareness because then you will be able to stay lucid long enough to find and pass a gates.
(I increase level of awareness in dreaming by chanting certain words).
4. Do not loose awareness while passing the gates
!Good luck, and lets give our best
..Castor''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien