02-12-2011, 12:00 AM
What I mean to say with dreaming. I don't limit it to foreign installation and myself. I have come up with my own model for dreaming, in order to do this I had to completely abandon what I had read in TAOD. But even some things in TAOD confirm some of my findings.
My dreams revolve a lot around shared dreams. How is this possible? Two or more dreamers remembering the same dream events? In Castaneda terms it's simply a few dreamers all put their AP in the same dreaming position. In castaneda terms it's simply that!
BUT!!!
In order to have shared dreams, at least one of the dreamers has to use their dream body to travel. To say that you have to create a dream body in order to do that is ridiculous. I have logged shared dreams of people who know nothing of Nagualism.
Theory:
Your inner world: This is simply the space you dream in when you don't travel out of body. This is the dream bubble that LW speaks of. you can mold it into anything that you wish to. Other dreamers, IOBs, and other entities can inhabit this bubble with you, and they can even "live" there if they wish to.
some of shared dreaming involves you inviting others into your own inner world bubble, or vice versa, you can travel to theirs. If you dream you are in your house, school or job, or combination of all these things, it's probably your inner world.
The Dream plane: You can construct outside of your inner world more dream bubbles that can serve as public dreaming places. Many places on our physical earth have a twin plane in a dream bubble. These are constructed by the "hive mind" dreams of everyone and everything that dreams on this planet. So in essence you can go to, stonehenge, pyramids in egypt, Atlantis and the moon. and these are REAL and TANGIBLE dreaming places! And people use their dream body to travel to these locations more often they are even aware of. The trick is stalking your dream self to realize this!
Beyond what I call the Dream Plane, exist other real and tangible places accessible from dreaming, or using you dream body. These are Alternate Dimensions. Everything you've read in fantasy novels, seen in a cartoon, or any alternate choice you would have made in life exists as another dimension or a parallel universe accessible through dreams.
Your deep dream self: What Lonewolf says is true: there is still your "double" which lives out a whole other life in dreams. We often forget our deep dream self or it's doings, but it is you, even though it's a part of yourself you might not ever see or acknowledge. It's extremely difficult to remember your deep dream self. This self has lived a completely different life than you since you were born. I think what Lonewolf talks about projecting you double in our physical reality is real. A shamanic death makes this possible, But truly stalking your double is a difficult feat. as it's knowings and doing are so beyond what we are trained to think of ourselves as, that the conscious mind simply can not handle this reality, unless you get rid of energetic garbage that is blocking you.
IOBs: I do think that the beings that Castaneda wrote about are real. However, the "dream plane," is not limited to you and these beings. When you have a more broad minded view of the dreaming reality like I do, that includes interdimensional beings, spirits of the dead, dream guides, other guides from the endless earth, it opens a more wide use to "dreaming". In my opinion while IOBs may not tell you lies, they DO simply refrain from telling you the truth and stalk you in such a way that you might never ask them about this. Remember they are fishermen and you are the fish! Given their way, they will convince you that everything in a dream is then and nothing can be done in dreams without their help. This is a load of BS.
A rule for dreaming: Everything in the dream requires your attention to exist.
In essence if all you think is that there is in dreaming is IOBs, that's all you will dream about. If you think all dreams are just inside your head, then that's all you will remember dreaming about. Whatever "rules," that you give more attention to about dreams the more your dreams will seem that way. So be careful what "rules" you have for dreams. If they do not fit your heart, simply discard those rules and make new ones better suited for your aim.
As for life and Death: We are life force force, pure energy that is neither created nor destroyed. Our physical bodies have amnesia of the true nature of our soul: that we exist in some form of sentience forever. I don't ignore the counts of past and future lives. In death our soul sheds our physical and astral bodies and is directed to the Endless earth. Where souls are learned and guided toward their next lives, and then they are sent back to earth or somewhere else.
I believe what Naguals like don Juan have done is perfected their dream bodies to exist permanently, so that they may exist elsewhere in pure awareness of who and what they are, There is no amnesia! and that They bypass the In between lifetime soul school altogether. That is a feat. But it's not my goal to do that. I do question the soul school however... As it is a system of slavery... being sent to earth again and again, forgetting who you are... going towards someone else's agenda.
Just my crazy ideas anyway.
My dreams revolve a lot around shared dreams. How is this possible? Two or more dreamers remembering the same dream events? In Castaneda terms it's simply a few dreamers all put their AP in the same dreaming position. In castaneda terms it's simply that!
BUT!!!
In order to have shared dreams, at least one of the dreamers has to use their dream body to travel. To say that you have to create a dream body in order to do that is ridiculous. I have logged shared dreams of people who know nothing of Nagualism.
Theory:
Your inner world: This is simply the space you dream in when you don't travel out of body. This is the dream bubble that LW speaks of. you can mold it into anything that you wish to. Other dreamers, IOBs, and other entities can inhabit this bubble with you, and they can even "live" there if they wish to.
some of shared dreaming involves you inviting others into your own inner world bubble, or vice versa, you can travel to theirs. If you dream you are in your house, school or job, or combination of all these things, it's probably your inner world.
The Dream plane: You can construct outside of your inner world more dream bubbles that can serve as public dreaming places. Many places on our physical earth have a twin plane in a dream bubble. These are constructed by the "hive mind" dreams of everyone and everything that dreams on this planet. So in essence you can go to, stonehenge, pyramids in egypt, Atlantis and the moon. and these are REAL and TANGIBLE dreaming places! And people use their dream body to travel to these locations more often they are even aware of. The trick is stalking your dream self to realize this!
Beyond what I call the Dream Plane, exist other real and tangible places accessible from dreaming, or using you dream body. These are Alternate Dimensions. Everything you've read in fantasy novels, seen in a cartoon, or any alternate choice you would have made in life exists as another dimension or a parallel universe accessible through dreams.
Your deep dream self: What Lonewolf says is true: there is still your "double" which lives out a whole other life in dreams. We often forget our deep dream self or it's doings, but it is you, even though it's a part of yourself you might not ever see or acknowledge. It's extremely difficult to remember your deep dream self. This self has lived a completely different life than you since you were born. I think what Lonewolf talks about projecting you double in our physical reality is real. A shamanic death makes this possible, But truly stalking your double is a difficult feat. as it's knowings and doing are so beyond what we are trained to think of ourselves as, that the conscious mind simply can not handle this reality, unless you get rid of energetic garbage that is blocking you.
IOBs: I do think that the beings that Castaneda wrote about are real. However, the "dream plane," is not limited to you and these beings. When you have a more broad minded view of the dreaming reality like I do, that includes interdimensional beings, spirits of the dead, dream guides, other guides from the endless earth, it opens a more wide use to "dreaming". In my opinion while IOBs may not tell you lies, they DO simply refrain from telling you the truth and stalk you in such a way that you might never ask them about this. Remember they are fishermen and you are the fish! Given their way, they will convince you that everything in a dream is then and nothing can be done in dreams without their help. This is a load of BS.
A rule for dreaming: Everything in the dream requires your attention to exist.
In essence if all you think is that there is in dreaming is IOBs, that's all you will dream about. If you think all dreams are just inside your head, then that's all you will remember dreaming about. Whatever "rules," that you give more attention to about dreams the more your dreams will seem that way. So be careful what "rules" you have for dreams. If they do not fit your heart, simply discard those rules and make new ones better suited for your aim.
As for life and Death: We are life force force, pure energy that is neither created nor destroyed. Our physical bodies have amnesia of the true nature of our soul: that we exist in some form of sentience forever. I don't ignore the counts of past and future lives. In death our soul sheds our physical and astral bodies and is directed to the Endless earth. Where souls are learned and guided toward their next lives, and then they are sent back to earth or somewhere else.
I believe what Naguals like don Juan have done is perfected their dream bodies to exist permanently, so that they may exist elsewhere in pure awareness of who and what they are, There is no amnesia! and that They bypass the In between lifetime soul school altogether. That is a feat. But it's not my goal to do that. I do question the soul school however... As it is a system of slavery... being sent to earth again and again, forgetting who you are... going towards someone else's agenda.
Just my crazy ideas anyway.