02-16-2011, 12:00 AM
Hi Ninth,
ninth octave wrote:
Last time I looked at some thing, some one- no one could be so certain to know exactly what it was I was really seeing or hearing or believing for that matter. Old / new dreamers, old/new seers, or an old /new testament mindset has always been about the inward journey and spiritual evolution of man's perception. It is a great wonder that two minds could even fully see things exactly the same as a third mind could. I am not your mind or thoughts, your seeing, your dreaming ,your visions or voice. There is freedom in this and also a real accountability for knowing it this way. It is a pure miracle when two or more are in perfect agreement and see it through the eons.
Mr 10:29
And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
Mr 10:30
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
Yes, it is a wonder. In the sense of miracle or sign or token.
To go from the under the Law to under Grace mentality is impossible with men. It is only accomplished by the Spirit. So the sign or signature is a "token" that you are on the correct track. Because the people you are surrounded by, sisters, brothers church members pastors, etc. will tell you you are wrong.
I remember leaving my old church and expecting to see many people who thought like me in other churches. I was sadly disappointed.
It took me a while to discover that the sisters and brothers were sometimes separated by hundreds or thousands of miles and sometimes hundreds or thousands of years. I found these brothers and sisters etc., in their writings. I still do.
I've met some too but not a "hundred fold." Yet!
You mentioned; "..spiritual evolution of man's perception.." That is what it's about.
But we have to completely erase our hard drive to make that big of a change. To "unlearn what we thought we knew."
Don Juan told Carlos to leave everything and everyone he knew.
Jesus told his disciples to leave mother, father sister, etc, even to hate their own soul...
Abraham when he began his journey was told to leave his home in "Ur of the Chaldees" in order to go to a land "he knew not." Ur of the Chaldees translated means "Light of the Magicians." THAT is ALL of us. We are surrounded by magicians. Those who keep us bewitched. Those who keep us entangled in this world.
It is not that we hate them but we hate their influence. They don't even know they are doing it. We begin to erase the hard drive and they try to fill it with the old operating system and old programs.
To combat this we fill the new hard drive with promises, as the one mentioned above, and at the same time watch for tokens from the Spirit to confirm to us that we are on the correct path.
ninth octave wrote:
Last time I looked at some thing, some one- no one could be so certain to know exactly what it was I was really seeing or hearing or believing for that matter. Old / new dreamers, old/new seers, or an old /new testament mindset has always been about the inward journey and spiritual evolution of man's perception. It is a great wonder that two minds could even fully see things exactly the same as a third mind could. I am not your mind or thoughts, your seeing, your dreaming ,your visions or voice. There is freedom in this and also a real accountability for knowing it this way. It is a pure miracle when two or more are in perfect agreement and see it through the eons.
Mr 10:29
And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
Mr 10:30
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
Yes, it is a wonder. In the sense of miracle or sign or token.
To go from the under the Law to under Grace mentality is impossible with men. It is only accomplished by the Spirit. So the sign or signature is a "token" that you are on the correct track. Because the people you are surrounded by, sisters, brothers church members pastors, etc. will tell you you are wrong.
I remember leaving my old church and expecting to see many people who thought like me in other churches. I was sadly disappointed.
It took me a while to discover that the sisters and brothers were sometimes separated by hundreds or thousands of miles and sometimes hundreds or thousands of years. I found these brothers and sisters etc., in their writings. I still do.
I've met some too but not a "hundred fold." Yet!
You mentioned; "..spiritual evolution of man's perception.." That is what it's about.
But we have to completely erase our hard drive to make that big of a change. To "unlearn what we thought we knew."
Don Juan told Carlos to leave everything and everyone he knew.
Jesus told his disciples to leave mother, father sister, etc, even to hate their own soul...
Abraham when he began his journey was told to leave his home in "Ur of the Chaldees" in order to go to a land "he knew not." Ur of the Chaldees translated means "Light of the Magicians." THAT is ALL of us. We are surrounded by magicians. Those who keep us bewitched. Those who keep us entangled in this world.
It is not that we hate them but we hate their influence. They don't even know they are doing it. We begin to erase the hard drive and they try to fill it with the old operating system and old programs.
To combat this we fill the new hard drive with promises, as the one mentioned above, and at the same time watch for tokens from the Spirit to confirm to us that we are on the correct path.