11-02-2011, 12:00 AM
seesaw wrote:
(I wrote)
I have issues with some of this. (your have some issues eh?)
The reality of experience huh? (yep...)
Well any experience we have is typically supported by a internal discourse, its aim is to support the experience, to maintain and stabilse, to justify, blah blah blah. (blah blah blah is right!) Therefore most experiences have this. (like the one you are having right now) Just look at a schizophrenics or psychotics 'reasons'. (look at YOURS) Its not that spiritual experiences are better and more 'transecendent to reason', they just have a special flavour of discourse that accompany them. (oh, is that the most significant thing that differentiates them...?) You know pompous lofty illuminated spiel. (or wisdom as it was recorded in that time and place) Its just internal dialogue. (are you sure thats ALL it is??) Even zen has its special internal dialogue, sutras etc. (internal dialogue isn't ALL negative you know) I have had my fair share of being nuts and trust me when i say i've had a good variety of different supporting discourses that i was running internally. (you are special?)
When i read the quotes above I see internal dialogue propping up an experience (is that all you 'see'?)
Anyway when are you going to write what you experience rather than just reaching for lofty illuminated others? (patience, and dont downplay the wisdom and knowledge from the past, all 'knowledge' is not created equal, some sources have more power or spirit potency than others)
(I wrote)
I have issues with some of this. (your have some issues eh?)
The reality of experience huh? (yep...)
Well any experience we have is typically supported by a internal discourse, its aim is to support the experience, to maintain and stabilse, to justify, blah blah blah. (blah blah blah is right!) Therefore most experiences have this. (like the one you are having right now) Just look at a schizophrenics or psychotics 'reasons'. (look at YOURS) Its not that spiritual experiences are better and more 'transecendent to reason', they just have a special flavour of discourse that accompany them. (oh, is that the most significant thing that differentiates them...?) You know pompous lofty illuminated spiel. (or wisdom as it was recorded in that time and place) Its just internal dialogue. (are you sure thats ALL it is??) Even zen has its special internal dialogue, sutras etc. (internal dialogue isn't ALL negative you know) I have had my fair share of being nuts and trust me when i say i've had a good variety of different supporting discourses that i was running internally. (you are special?)
When i read the quotes above I see internal dialogue propping up an experience (is that all you 'see'?)
Anyway when are you going to write what you experience rather than just reaching for lofty illuminated others? (patience, and dont downplay the wisdom and knowledge from the past, all 'knowledge' is not created equal, some sources have more power or spirit potency than others)