07-14-2010, 12:00 AM
dreamways wrote:Anybody who has spent any time reading my Nagual forum knows that I have two
primary interests, dreaming and inorganic energy. I'm all for including
every part of Nagualism in the Nagual Church, but excluding dreaming
and inorganica from the focus would be the last thing that I would
ever consider.
Ahhhh... I'm not saying excluding dreaming altogether but downplaying it, for Don Juan said that dreaming and recapitulation were secundary aids (for one) and for the other that people are willing to kill to secure knowledge and individuals that could serve their tonal purposes.
The Dream Hacker leader was murdered by Russian Intelligence and the next one in "rank" had to flee the country, for she was next. Their sin? Having an open, free-for-all dreaming based volunteers training.
Coming out like that IS dangerous. The Volunteer-Tonal Recapitulation Cult of Dianetics (Scientology) had to fight endlessly just to survive the onslaughts of the Psychology/Psychiatry Mafia that saw such knowledge as a menace to their dominating state.
What I said is about learning from other people's mistakes, for people has not changed that much in the last 4000 years.
I'm certainly NOT sorry for caring about the life of sorcerers of today and tomorrow Dreamways. You are the one asking for opinions and asking how to do things right.
Try to see that next time you get into a tonal tantrum. Besides that, my opinion about you has not changed. I certainly can live without entering your forum again, if it comes to that.
Regards.
PS: I would suggest you take your idea to Don Juan, since his opinion is the only one that has any weight on you. I can imagine what he will say, though.
primary interests, dreaming and inorganic energy. I'm all for including
every part of Nagualism in the Nagual Church, but excluding dreaming
and inorganica from the focus would be the last thing that I would
ever consider.
Ahhhh... I'm not saying excluding dreaming altogether but downplaying it, for Don Juan said that dreaming and recapitulation were secundary aids (for one) and for the other that people are willing to kill to secure knowledge and individuals that could serve their tonal purposes.
The Dream Hacker leader was murdered by Russian Intelligence and the next one in "rank" had to flee the country, for she was next. Their sin? Having an open, free-for-all dreaming based volunteers training.
Coming out like that IS dangerous. The Volunteer-Tonal Recapitulation Cult of Dianetics (Scientology) had to fight endlessly just to survive the onslaughts of the Psychology/Psychiatry Mafia that saw such knowledge as a menace to their dominating state.
What I said is about learning from other people's mistakes, for people has not changed that much in the last 4000 years.
I'm certainly NOT sorry for caring about the life of sorcerers of today and tomorrow Dreamways. You are the one asking for opinions and asking how to do things right.
Try to see that next time you get into a tonal tantrum. Besides that, my opinion about you has not changed. I certainly can live without entering your forum again, if it comes to that.
Regards.
PS: I would suggest you take your idea to Don Juan, since his opinion is the only one that has any weight on you. I can imagine what he will say, though.