08-10-2008, 12:00 AM
Hi Dreamways,
"But with nagualism, you aren't really calling upon God at all."
Then your idea of Nagual is too small.
We live in a sea of awareness. Pure being that we can become "one with."
The unknown is hidden from us. We can experience it if we are fortunate or work at it but then, we find there is still an unknowable beyond that which we have
experienced.
This is why I copied and pasted what I did.
There is a pattern to the Unknown. Functions and operations. Modes of operations, functions and awarenesses.
In a nutshell, this is the Tree of Life. Beyond that Tree is the Unknowable, the Ain Soph Aur (limitless light.)
What I pasted was just a small excerp of a commentary on the first two Sephira only. The entire system called sorcery would not go beyond the 7th, and 9th
Sephirah on the Tree. We occupy the 10th or realm of physical matter.
Don Juan did not consider himself a sorcerer. I believe he went far beyond that. How far I don't know.
Carlos got caught up in that world. Don Juan warned him not to.
Introducing Carlos to the sorcerers world was meant to show him there was something beyond normal awareness.
What he was supposed to do from that starting point was to realize that the world of ordinary men and the world of sorcerers were equally illusory.
His advise was to Carlos was to "slip between the two" and become a "man of knowledge."
Both his life and writings lead me to believe he never accomplished or even understood that.
"But with nagualism, you aren't really calling upon God at all."
Then your idea of Nagual is too small.
We live in a sea of awareness. Pure being that we can become "one with."
The unknown is hidden from us. We can experience it if we are fortunate or work at it but then, we find there is still an unknowable beyond that which we have
experienced.
This is why I copied and pasted what I did.
There is a pattern to the Unknown. Functions and operations. Modes of operations, functions and awarenesses.
In a nutshell, this is the Tree of Life. Beyond that Tree is the Unknowable, the Ain Soph Aur (limitless light.)
What I pasted was just a small excerp of a commentary on the first two Sephira only. The entire system called sorcery would not go beyond the 7th, and 9th
Sephirah on the Tree. We occupy the 10th or realm of physical matter.
Don Juan did not consider himself a sorcerer. I believe he went far beyond that. How far I don't know.
Carlos got caught up in that world. Don Juan warned him not to.
Introducing Carlos to the sorcerers world was meant to show him there was something beyond normal awareness.
What he was supposed to do from that starting point was to realize that the world of ordinary men and the world of sorcerers were equally illusory.
His advise was to Carlos was to "slip between the two" and become a "man of knowledge."
Both his life and writings lead me to believe he never accomplished or even understood that.

