Perspective

[Bob May]

Hi Guys,




This discussion has become heated at times. At least I think it has. It is hard to be sure because I can't see anyone's faces. Such is the internet.


But I have learned something very important to me because of questions raised in my mind as a result of these discussions.


Dreamway's comment about the eagle being below the crown kind of confirms what I was looking into.




I like to look at don Juan's explaination of reality and see how it fits with the Qabala's description being that I have experienced things using both
systems of knowledge. This way I can get a better understanding of what is going on. The more details that diverse systems agee upon, the more I can believe
the details. "In the multitude of councilors there is wisdom.", as the Bible says. This is especially true in my estimation when these systems of
knowledge seem to have sprung from such diverse geographical areas of the world with no apparent contact with one another.




I had always likened the Eagle with the first Sephira of the Tree of Life. Where all awareness comes from. Pure consciousness, Awareness, I AM.


I believe now that the Eagle is not that high up the Tree.


Why? Because according to don Juan it is not the primal source of energy.


That distinction is reserved for the "Tyrant." It is very interesting to me that they used that name. It is a pure Old Testament concept or
prespective of God. This perspective is one that is characterised by the idea that God is a destroyer that cannot be approached.


"No one can see God and live." No wonder they stopped short.


The Tyrant is describe by don Juan as being:




1. "The Primal source of Energy."


2. "The Souce of everything."


3. "The one and only ruler in the Universe."




These are all attributes of the Crown, Kether, the first Emanation. Unknowable. To become one with this Sephirah is to unmanifest.


"Enoch walked with God and was not for God took him."


Yet in the New Testament there are those who unmanifested and returned. Jesus for one and Phillip for another.




But then that is New Testament/Covenant and different rules apply.




Anyway, thanks guys for this discussion. It fills in some missing pieces of the puzzle.