08-19-2008, 12:01 AM
grandspeculator
wrote:
According to other traditions, Vedanta for instance, there are at the very least four states with many perceptual degrees in between: Waking, dreaming,
dreamless and beyond the three states (Turiya) Each state is related to a particular attention and subtle body.
Wake = Physical Body
Dream = Subtle Astral and Vital Body
Dreamless = Subtle Causal or Mental Body
The so-called forth state is cosmic consciousness, nirvana, nirvikalpa samadhi, moksha, etc... every tradition calls it differently. That is, in many other
traditions, the ultimate state of perceptual freedom. When naguals burn with the fire from within and pass the eagle they don't become one with
infinity... they achieve an state where they "see" infinity from the causal body.
This sort of hierarchy is false. The flow of consciousness evolves in a circular fashion, just like the cycles found in Nature. The fallacy of a static
hierarchy is an unnatural concoction, created to satisfy egomaniacs. This is where the "gurus" sit around telling each other, "no, my
consciousness is higher!" "My satguru realized god more perfectly than yours!"
wrote:
According to other traditions, Vedanta for instance, there are at the very least four states with many perceptual degrees in between: Waking, dreaming,
dreamless and beyond the three states (Turiya) Each state is related to a particular attention and subtle body.
Wake = Physical Body
Dream = Subtle Astral and Vital Body
Dreamless = Subtle Causal or Mental Body
The so-called forth state is cosmic consciousness, nirvana, nirvikalpa samadhi, moksha, etc... every tradition calls it differently. That is, in many other
traditions, the ultimate state of perceptual freedom. When naguals burn with the fire from within and pass the eagle they don't become one with
infinity... they achieve an state where they "see" infinity from the causal body.
This sort of hierarchy is false. The flow of consciousness evolves in a circular fashion, just like the cycles found in Nature. The fallacy of a static
hierarchy is an unnatural concoction, created to satisfy egomaniacs. This is where the "gurus" sit around telling each other, "no, my
consciousness is higher!" "My satguru realized god more perfectly than yours!"