07-29-2008, 12:00 AM
"The question is what is the intent of angles that we can try and understand there true existences that goes beyond biblical categorization."
Their "intent" would depend on which angels you are speaking about.
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his ANGELS fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his
ANGELS,.."
But it sounds like you won't accept any catagorization that the Bible has to say on the subject.
Here are some alternatives.
You can go out and buy a copy of "The Greater Keys of Solomon". There are invocations and signs and sigils contained in this book that will guide you
in calling them for yourself. Then you will not have to take anyone's word for it. But I would caution you to make sure of your intent before doing this.
Also there is a book called "The Lesser Keys of Solomon", but you do not want to even read the names in that book. Very bad guys contained in that
book.
"I myself do not be limited to the biblical description of the true orgin of angles that are written by by people that are not in tune with history
beyond the written scriptures that are taken as the assumed factual truth of mans history."
Then read any book of the Old Testament concerning the subject of angels or any other subject contained there.
Because all of those books were written BEFORE there was a Bible.
So there would have been no Biblical history to mold their opinions one way or another.
That would also go for the New Testament books actually.
Another source for this type of information would be the Nag Hammadi Library. Those books were either not considered for or found not appropriate for Bible
inclusion by those who decided what should be included when the scrolls were gathered into a collection of books that would later be called "The
Bible."
Another source would be the Dead Sea Scrolls which some attribute to the Essenes.
The Book of Enoch is also good because it covers the subjects of not only angels, but the fallen angels and their offspring.
The half-breed results of the coupling of the sons of Elohim (gods) and the daughters of men.
It is thought by many that it is they who brought the knowledge of science, architecture, medicine etc., to humankind and were responsible for such
structures as the Pyramids and other advancements which are still a mystery today.
It is also thought by many that these half-breed offspring were the true origins of myths like Hercules, and other greekand Roman "gods" who were
heroes and said to be half man, half god.
The Bible calls these offspring Men of Renoun, Giants, etc.
If this is so, then Greek and Roman mythology, and books like Gilgamesh and the Illiad and Odyssey would also be related material to look into.
Their "intent" would depend on which angels you are speaking about.
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his ANGELS fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his
ANGELS,.."
But it sounds like you won't accept any catagorization that the Bible has to say on the subject.
Here are some alternatives.
You can go out and buy a copy of "The Greater Keys of Solomon". There are invocations and signs and sigils contained in this book that will guide you
in calling them for yourself. Then you will not have to take anyone's word for it. But I would caution you to make sure of your intent before doing this.
Also there is a book called "The Lesser Keys of Solomon", but you do not want to even read the names in that book. Very bad guys contained in that
book.
"I myself do not be limited to the biblical description of the true orgin of angles that are written by by people that are not in tune with history
beyond the written scriptures that are taken as the assumed factual truth of mans history."
Then read any book of the Old Testament concerning the subject of angels or any other subject contained there.
Because all of those books were written BEFORE there was a Bible.
So there would have been no Biblical history to mold their opinions one way or another.
That would also go for the New Testament books actually.
Another source for this type of information would be the Nag Hammadi Library. Those books were either not considered for or found not appropriate for Bible
inclusion by those who decided what should be included when the scrolls were gathered into a collection of books that would later be called "The
Bible."
Another source would be the Dead Sea Scrolls which some attribute to the Essenes.
The Book of Enoch is also good because it covers the subjects of not only angels, but the fallen angels and their offspring.
The half-breed results of the coupling of the sons of Elohim (gods) and the daughters of men.
It is thought by many that it is they who brought the knowledge of science, architecture, medicine etc., to humankind and were responsible for such
structures as the Pyramids and other advancements which are still a mystery today.
It is also thought by many that these half-breed offspring were the true origins of myths like Hercules, and other greekand Roman "gods" who were
heroes and said to be half man, half god.
The Bible calls these offspring Men of Renoun, Giants, etc.
If this is so, then Greek and Roman mythology, and books like Gilgamesh and the Illiad and Odyssey would also be related material to look into.