05-29-2008, 12:00 AM
Hi seeitall.
"..do we have a definition what impeccable means or are we talking about different things ? "
My Webster's says "Having no flaws; perfect; not capable of sin. But whether or not Don Juan meant it this way or not, it still implies a standard
that we are striving to live up to. One in which we sometimes or often fall short of attaining.
"I'm not sure if don Juan said this: "the only difference between warrior and a
common man is that warrior is never disappointed by his failure""
Yes he said that or something very similar. If we fail at living up to a very high standard of thought and behavior, we have already blown it.
If we then get overly upset because we have blown it, then we have blown it twice. Kind of a "catch 22."
Which is my point. How do we handle the failure?
There is a third type of reaction also. This is the type of person who pretends that they don't fail while in the presence of others and maybe won't
even admit it to themselves. This is a brain-dead hyppocrite.
"Does impeccable mean that you cannot do a mistake or fail ? Even angels have fallen if you believe in bible.
How it could be if they see ? "
Angels don't see everything. They reside in another realm and so are aware of it even though we are not. But if they were able to experience what we do
they would not have fallen in the first place.They wanted to see what it was like to screw women and so are stuck here, (although invisible to us.) And for
that matter if they could see so well, they would have seen the big mistake they were making and not made it.
"To see you need to lead an impeccable life. but Doc Green says you can be impeccable only if you see ? "
Maybe you need to see to read between the lines. Jesus aparently broke the Hebrew Law many times while doing what is right. A matter of the spirit vs. the
letter of the law. Like I said, life is not a paint by numbers proposition. Too many gray areas.
"Getting past the eagle or heaven for eternity might
be worse than being devoured by the Eagle."
I doubt it. Then it wouldn't be heaven, would it?
Besides, the kingdom of heaven is not just some place you go when you die. It's here, now. More akin to "seeing" than going somewhere.
I guess my whole point here is that we need a "safety valve" of some sort when striving for perfection.
In Christianity it is called Grace.
In Don Juan's system the quote you mentioned above pretty much covers it.
"..do we have a definition what impeccable means or are we talking about different things ? "
My Webster's says "Having no flaws; perfect; not capable of sin. But whether or not Don Juan meant it this way or not, it still implies a standard
that we are striving to live up to. One in which we sometimes or often fall short of attaining.
"I'm not sure if don Juan said this: "the only difference between warrior and a
common man is that warrior is never disappointed by his failure""
Yes he said that or something very similar. If we fail at living up to a very high standard of thought and behavior, we have already blown it.
If we then get overly upset because we have blown it, then we have blown it twice. Kind of a "catch 22."
Which is my point. How do we handle the failure?
There is a third type of reaction also. This is the type of person who pretends that they don't fail while in the presence of others and maybe won't
even admit it to themselves. This is a brain-dead hyppocrite.
"Does impeccable mean that you cannot do a mistake or fail ? Even angels have fallen if you believe in bible.
How it could be if they see ? "
Angels don't see everything. They reside in another realm and so are aware of it even though we are not. But if they were able to experience what we do
they would not have fallen in the first place.They wanted to see what it was like to screw women and so are stuck here, (although invisible to us.) And for
that matter if they could see so well, they would have seen the big mistake they were making and not made it.
"To see you need to lead an impeccable life. but Doc Green says you can be impeccable only if you see ? "
Maybe you need to see to read between the lines. Jesus aparently broke the Hebrew Law many times while doing what is right. A matter of the spirit vs. the
letter of the law. Like I said, life is not a paint by numbers proposition. Too many gray areas.
"Getting past the eagle or heaven for eternity might
be worse than being devoured by the Eagle."
I doubt it. Then it wouldn't be heaven, would it?
Besides, the kingdom of heaven is not just some place you go when you die. It's here, now. More akin to "seeing" than going somewhere.
I guess my whole point here is that we need a "safety valve" of some sort when striving for perfection.
In Christianity it is called Grace.
In Don Juan's system the quote you mentioned above pretty much covers it.