04-11-2008, 12:00 AM
Hi Croc and Vrill,
Great question Croc. Down to basics. What is fire. I will contemplate that and see where it leads me.
Earth, Air, Fire and Water are symbols of something finer and real at every level whether material, astral, spiritual or divine.
Aleph, Mem, and Shin are the Hebrew letters that translate to "Spirit" in it's three "modes of operation", I guess you could call it.
Aleph or A means Breath. Mem means Water. Shin means Fire.
You can get some idea of these realities by looking at how these elements behave in dense mater.
Air is a fluid that compresses and stretches and tends to expand away from itself.
Water is a fliud that does not compress or stretch and tends to draw itself together.
Earth is a negative electrically speaking and draws positive to it.
Fire is a cleansing element. It produces heat. Heat changes the basic properties of things so that they become either softer (brass) harder (steel) or
something completely different.
All things are purified by fire.
"However if we have the ability to engage what the Tibetans call Rigpa, or non-dualistic awareness then we can engage another kind of fire.
This is something "other". Then the activities of suffering, can be the fuel or material for our transformational fire.
Are we willing to hurl ourselves on the pyre and burn Phoenix-like?
Has anyone else discovered the Attention I speak about? "
I am not familiar with Budhist terminology so I will use my own words.
I have felt the fire of the Kundalini and it is Fire, a burning heat. There is no flame but the heat changes a person. My teacher compared it to having acid in
his veins. I would compare it to having rubbing alchohol poured inside of you. Cold and hot at the same time,...at first. Then like burning coals in your
cells. It comes and goes sometimes seemingly for no aparent reason. Sometimes initiated by meditations or just thoughts of spiritual things alone.
It is HOT, not pleasantly warm.
The Bible says man was formed of the dust of the earth. And to dust we shall return. Dust is a mixture of air and earth.
Just rolling around some ideas here for consideration.
Great question Croc. Down to basics. What is fire. I will contemplate that and see where it leads me.
Earth, Air, Fire and Water are symbols of something finer and real at every level whether material, astral, spiritual or divine.
Aleph, Mem, and Shin are the Hebrew letters that translate to "Spirit" in it's three "modes of operation", I guess you could call it.
Aleph or A means Breath. Mem means Water. Shin means Fire.
You can get some idea of these realities by looking at how these elements behave in dense mater.
Air is a fluid that compresses and stretches and tends to expand away from itself.
Water is a fliud that does not compress or stretch and tends to draw itself together.
Earth is a negative electrically speaking and draws positive to it.
Fire is a cleansing element. It produces heat. Heat changes the basic properties of things so that they become either softer (brass) harder (steel) or
something completely different.
All things are purified by fire.
"However if we have the ability to engage what the Tibetans call Rigpa, or non-dualistic awareness then we can engage another kind of fire.
This is something "other". Then the activities of suffering, can be the fuel or material for our transformational fire.
Are we willing to hurl ourselves on the pyre and burn Phoenix-like?
Has anyone else discovered the Attention I speak about? "
I am not familiar with Budhist terminology so I will use my own words.
I have felt the fire of the Kundalini and it is Fire, a burning heat. There is no flame but the heat changes a person. My teacher compared it to having acid in
his veins. I would compare it to having rubbing alchohol poured inside of you. Cold and hot at the same time,...at first. Then like burning coals in your
cells. It comes and goes sometimes seemingly for no aparent reason. Sometimes initiated by meditations or just thoughts of spiritual things alone.
It is HOT, not pleasantly warm.
The Bible says man was formed of the dust of the earth. And to dust we shall return. Dust is a mixture of air and earth.
Just rolling around some ideas here for consideration.

