01-28-2011, 12:00 AM
“The first truth, (about awareness) he said, was that our familiarity with the world we perceive compels us to believe that we are surrounded by objects, existing by themselves and as themselves, just as we perceive them, whereas, in fact, there is no world of objects, but a universe of eagles emanations.” FFW
There is a lot in this small paragraph. Now I am not asking anyone to believe what Don Juan is saying here, I do not care two hoots whether you believe it or not. What I do care about is that it is understood. That the man’s point of view has been appreciated. Now you might believe you are surrounded by this world of individual objects and nothing can change what appears so self evident. Well fine but is it possible to just for the sake of dialogue to suspend that determination while we explore what DJ is talking about? I mean what did the man experience that led him to make such a radical statement.
What is unfortunate, in my opinion, in DJ’s words above, is when he tags on that last bit, “but a universe of eagles emanations.” You see we need more space to contemplate the no objects before jumping to what I believe is a level of metaphysical interpretation, “eagles emanations”. Unfortunately what has happened amongst seers today is that because of our “new” familiarity with DJs world view through CCs words, we simply accommodate the radical statement of no objects, by saying, “yes its all energetic” or words to that effect and we suck it into our existing inventory.
What happens when we do this is we simply replace the familiar world of objects with an energetic version of it. By doing this we avoid the ontological challenge implicit in DJ’s words, that there are no objects, solid or otherwise. You see if we cannot face this squarely for more than just a moment, then the question, “well what is it we are seeing?” will gain no traction, if it even arises at all. I still want to keep that on hold until later if we could. I do want to speak about that but there is more to see about no objects first.
DJ makes the comment above that when we are “compelled” to believe we are surrounded by objects, these objects appear to exist “by themselves and as themselves”. Now that is a very precise statement. If we can unravel this one statement the internal dialogue will cease and its world will collapse. Wow an energetic wave just passed and staggered me for a moment and I quite literally had to go evacuate my bowels lol. An omen perhaps?
There is a lot in this small paragraph. Now I am not asking anyone to believe what Don Juan is saying here, I do not care two hoots whether you believe it or not. What I do care about is that it is understood. That the man’s point of view has been appreciated. Now you might believe you are surrounded by this world of individual objects and nothing can change what appears so self evident. Well fine but is it possible to just for the sake of dialogue to suspend that determination while we explore what DJ is talking about? I mean what did the man experience that led him to make such a radical statement.
What is unfortunate, in my opinion, in DJ’s words above, is when he tags on that last bit, “but a universe of eagles emanations.” You see we need more space to contemplate the no objects before jumping to what I believe is a level of metaphysical interpretation, “eagles emanations”. Unfortunately what has happened amongst seers today is that because of our “new” familiarity with DJs world view through CCs words, we simply accommodate the radical statement of no objects, by saying, “yes its all energetic” or words to that effect and we suck it into our existing inventory.
What happens when we do this is we simply replace the familiar world of objects with an energetic version of it. By doing this we avoid the ontological challenge implicit in DJ’s words, that there are no objects, solid or otherwise. You see if we cannot face this squarely for more than just a moment, then the question, “well what is it we are seeing?” will gain no traction, if it even arises at all. I still want to keep that on hold until later if we could. I do want to speak about that but there is more to see about no objects first.
DJ makes the comment above that when we are “compelled” to believe we are surrounded by objects, these objects appear to exist “by themselves and as themselves”. Now that is a very precise statement. If we can unravel this one statement the internal dialogue will cease and its world will collapse. Wow an energetic wave just passed and staggered me for a moment and I quite literally had to go evacuate my bowels lol. An omen perhaps?