01-29-2011, 12:00 AM
lex icon wrote:
""Visions revelations etc often point point to something more especially when it is a revelation of something unknown which then becomes known expanding one’s personal awareness. And they very often point to something more, beyond this.""
Yes, I'm talking about real visions not halucinations.
""However we cannot concluded from this that such a statement concerns the unknowable. DJ said we can glimpse the unknowable but thought that the task was to separate it from the unknown.
So we have the finite, definable known and the infinite unknown that expands the known through conscious contact. So how do we even “know” there is an unknowable? How do we “glimpse” the unknowable.""
There is, in the Qabala, the highest Sephirah on the tree of life, which if a person becomes "one with" it is said he will unmanifest.
(My teacher said this happened to him while going through a spontaneous awakening of the Kundalini. He doesn't remember anything about it except a blinding light and waking up hours later in another room in his house.)
Beyond that the unknowable, the Limitless Light.
Don Juan says there is an unknowable.
I, myself had an experience fully conscious that I brought very little back from. I just watched it escape from my mind.
I don't doubt there is an Unknowable.
So, how do we glimpse the unknowable?
The Point meditation.
""Visions revelations etc often point point to something more especially when it is a revelation of something unknown which then becomes known expanding one’s personal awareness. And they very often point to something more, beyond this.""
Yes, I'm talking about real visions not halucinations.
""However we cannot concluded from this that such a statement concerns the unknowable. DJ said we can glimpse the unknowable but thought that the task was to separate it from the unknown.
So we have the finite, definable known and the infinite unknown that expands the known through conscious contact. So how do we even “know” there is an unknowable? How do we “glimpse” the unknowable.""
There is, in the Qabala, the highest Sephirah on the tree of life, which if a person becomes "one with" it is said he will unmanifest.
(My teacher said this happened to him while going through a spontaneous awakening of the Kundalini. He doesn't remember anything about it except a blinding light and waking up hours later in another room in his house.)
Beyond that the unknowable, the Limitless Light.
Don Juan says there is an unknowable.
I, myself had an experience fully conscious that I brought very little back from. I just watched it escape from my mind.
I don't doubt there is an Unknowable.
So, how do we glimpse the unknowable?
The Point meditation.