01-29-2011, 12:00 AM
ninth octave wrote:
Could John as best as he could with words be describing a hologram here ?
Insofar as we were using that term as an analogy, that is my understanding. Everything that is/was experienced at any level would be a projection of the Source. And all is light. I would say yes.
From The Aprocryphon of John
I haven't read this book but some things look familiar from some personal experiences and bible and Don Juan books.
Straightway, while I was contemplating theses things, behold the heavens opened and the whole creation which is below heaven shone, and the world was shaken.
I have seen and have read of everything glowing with it's own light. In fact from what I've seen beyond this physical world, everything is made of light.
2 I was afraid, and behold I saw in the light an old man. And he changed his likeness (again) becoming like a servant. There was not a plurality before me, but there was a likeness with multiple forms in the light, and the likeness had three forms.
Human beings are not what we believe they are. Not what they appear to be. Maybe not only what they appear to be would be a better way to put it. I have seen faces change as if the different layers were superimposed one upon another. Not different likenesses as my face compared to your's for instance, but beings of a different order.
Genero touches on this in his tale describing his "journey to ixtlan". Carlos named the book after the tale that Genero related in that book.
I believe this also relates to the "coats of skins" from Genesis. Don Juan uses the skins of an onion to describe it and also the tree of life of the Qabalah is sometimes described in that way.
He said to me, "John, John, why do you doubt, or why are you afraid? You are not unfamiliar with this image, are you?- that is, do not be timid! - I am the one who is with you always. I am the Father, I am the Mother, I am the Son.
Father, Son, Holy Spirit?
I am the undefiled and incorruptible one. Now I have come to teach you what is and what is to come to pass, that you may know the things which are not revealed and those which are revealed, and to teach you concerning the unwavering race of the perfect Man. Now, therefore, lift up your face, that you may receive the things that I shall teach you today, and may tell them to your fellow spirits who are from the unwavering race of the perfect Man."
He is going to reveal something to John and John in turn is to pass it on.
Could John as best as he could with words be describing a hologram here ?
Insofar as we were using that term as an analogy, that is my understanding. Everything that is/was experienced at any level would be a projection of the Source. And all is light. I would say yes.
From The Aprocryphon of John
I haven't read this book but some things look familiar from some personal experiences and bible and Don Juan books.
Straightway, while I was contemplating theses things, behold the heavens opened and the whole creation which is below heaven shone, and the world was shaken.
I have seen and have read of everything glowing with it's own light. In fact from what I've seen beyond this physical world, everything is made of light.
2 I was afraid, and behold I saw in the light an old man. And he changed his likeness (again) becoming like a servant. There was not a plurality before me, but there was a likeness with multiple forms in the light, and the likeness had three forms.
Human beings are not what we believe they are. Not what they appear to be. Maybe not only what they appear to be would be a better way to put it. I have seen faces change as if the different layers were superimposed one upon another. Not different likenesses as my face compared to your's for instance, but beings of a different order.
Genero touches on this in his tale describing his "journey to ixtlan". Carlos named the book after the tale that Genero related in that book.
I believe this also relates to the "coats of skins" from Genesis. Don Juan uses the skins of an onion to describe it and also the tree of life of the Qabalah is sometimes described in that way.
He said to me, "John, John, why do you doubt, or why are you afraid? You are not unfamiliar with this image, are you?- that is, do not be timid! - I am the one who is with you always. I am the Father, I am the Mother, I am the Son.
Father, Son, Holy Spirit?
I am the undefiled and incorruptible one. Now I have come to teach you what is and what is to come to pass, that you may know the things which are not revealed and those which are revealed, and to teach you concerning the unwavering race of the perfect Man. Now, therefore, lift up your face, that you may receive the things that I shall teach you today, and may tell them to your fellow spirits who are from the unwavering race of the perfect Man."
He is going to reveal something to John and John in turn is to pass it on.