02-02-2011, 12:00 AM
Wow, I tell you. Trying to get people to talk about this no object perspective of DJ’s is not easy. It’s like pulling teeth. From the replies in this thread it seems people would rather talk about anything else, especially the unknown. I have patiently tried to keep bringing this back but now the deflections are mounting so fast that trying to recover DJ’s subtle perspective concerning this requires a different tact.
Now this is where the difficulty lies. People see the unknowable all the time they just do not recognize it. Then there are those who are spiritually sensitive and have made great headway in their journey adroitly distinguishing between the known and the unknown but for them the unknowable seems like some mystery hidden behind the scenes a mystery that they guess is at the core of everything and then they start building the “monumental edifices” of speculation concerning this so called mystery. In the end these spiritually sensitive ones are just as unable as those who nothing of the unknown when it comes to the unknowable. The spiritually sensitive ones do not know how to separate the unknowable from the unknown.
So I will shelve the topic for now. I will find a way to come back to it.
What seems to be of interest is what is swirling in the deflections. When I brought up the unknowable and this subtle distinction of DJ’s concerning new and old seers there seemed to be a mild scrambling to seize the narrative concerning this subtle distinction of DJ’s and steer that narrative into something more inline with how people imagine themselves as new seers and away from DJ’s view about the old seers, to steer the narrative into something more comfortable.
So we can leave the unknowable and no objects alone for the time being and focus on these other issues instead. I just want it noted that that is what we appear to be doing.
Probably intent has a hand in this, so let’s see where it goes.
Now this is where the difficulty lies. People see the unknowable all the time they just do not recognize it. Then there are those who are spiritually sensitive and have made great headway in their journey adroitly distinguishing between the known and the unknown but for them the unknowable seems like some mystery hidden behind the scenes a mystery that they guess is at the core of everything and then they start building the “monumental edifices” of speculation concerning this so called mystery. In the end these spiritually sensitive ones are just as unable as those who nothing of the unknown when it comes to the unknowable. The spiritually sensitive ones do not know how to separate the unknowable from the unknown.
So I will shelve the topic for now. I will find a way to come back to it.
What seems to be of interest is what is swirling in the deflections. When I brought up the unknowable and this subtle distinction of DJ’s concerning new and old seers there seemed to be a mild scrambling to seize the narrative concerning this subtle distinction of DJ’s and steer that narrative into something more inline with how people imagine themselves as new seers and away from DJ’s view about the old seers, to steer the narrative into something more comfortable.
So we can leave the unknowable and no objects alone for the time being and focus on these other issues instead. I just want it noted that that is what we appear to be doing.
Probably intent has a hand in this, so let’s see where it goes.