02-02-2011, 12:00 AM
“Just like the other world has its mobile unit-- the inorganic beings-- Earth also has one, and it's us. We are children of the Earth. The movement of the assemblage point of a sufficient number of warriors can change the modality of the time, and that is what I am working towards." Encounters with The Nagual, Armando Torres.
So now we have the new age movement, which is not the same as the seers of the new era. Nemo
Ok I am one of those people that just doesn’t take things at face value based on a cursory glance. I probe and then questions arise as to meaning.
Castaneda spent a lot of time detailing for us the Assemblage Point of people. He told people, what is was, what it looked like, what it its function was and where it is located. That kind of detail regarding the Earth’s Assemblage Point seems to be lacking.
Are we to believe from this that people are the AP of the Earth??? If that is so then IBs are the AP of their world, if this is indeed CC’s logic.
"The task which my teacher gave me, and my mission as a nagual for the era which is commencing, is to move the assemblage point of the Earth."Encounters with The Nagual, Armando Torres.
This statement in Armando Torres book seems to be at odds with a statement in Fire From With...
“Seers aim to be free, to be unbiased witnesses incapable of passing judgment; (???) otherwise they would have to assume the responsibility for bringing about a more adjusted cycle. No one can do that. The New Cycle, if it is to come about, must come of itself.” FFW
While under the direct tutelage of DJ while he was still alive and physically present, Castaneda says, “No one can do that.” Then more towards the end of his life (CC) presumable after DJ has left the scene for an alternate reality, Armando Torres reports CC now believing he can do this and that it is the task set him by DJ. This change of mind seems to coincide with CC’s public offering of Tensegrity and this “open door” into the sorcerers world. Something that previously only the designs of intent used Naguals and nagual parties built on the Rule to usher people in that were specifically “marked” by the designs of intent. Are we to believe that this is just a natural evolution of CC, (and the Rule)? If so a little more clarity regarding this would have been helpful.
He explained that the assemblage point of Earth has changed many times in the past, and will do so in the future. In recent times it has been moving steadily towards the area of reason. EWTN
It is comments like this one that really leave me scratching my head and saying...”Really? Really?” A high school student acquainted with even rudimentary history sees this. They might not call it an Assemblage Point. Which begs the question why is a nagual leader needed to do this now? The age of reason began with just the aid of a telescope. What kind of world does CC wish to usher in?
“The movement of the assemblage point of a sufficient number of warriors can change the modality of the time, and that is what I am working towards." EWTN
So it appears we are back to the “hundredth monkey theory” of the 1970s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect
Many people of all different kinds and backgrounds are working on the premise of hundredth monkey theory in many different fields, I guess we should be grateful that Castaneda was to. But discrepancies niggle at me.
"The refocusing of the Earth's attention is the product of the combined
action of many generations of naguals. The new seers conceived of it as a
possibility, and discovered that it was part of the Rule." EWTN
Can some show me where in the Rule this is?
So now we have the new age movement, which is not the same as the seers of the new era. Nemo
Ok I am one of those people that just doesn’t take things at face value based on a cursory glance. I probe and then questions arise as to meaning.
Castaneda spent a lot of time detailing for us the Assemblage Point of people. He told people, what is was, what it looked like, what it its function was and where it is located. That kind of detail regarding the Earth’s Assemblage Point seems to be lacking.
Are we to believe from this that people are the AP of the Earth??? If that is so then IBs are the AP of their world, if this is indeed CC’s logic.
"The task which my teacher gave me, and my mission as a nagual for the era which is commencing, is to move the assemblage point of the Earth."Encounters with The Nagual, Armando Torres.
This statement in Armando Torres book seems to be at odds with a statement in Fire From With...
“Seers aim to be free, to be unbiased witnesses incapable of passing judgment; (???) otherwise they would have to assume the responsibility for bringing about a more adjusted cycle. No one can do that. The New Cycle, if it is to come about, must come of itself.” FFW
While under the direct tutelage of DJ while he was still alive and physically present, Castaneda says, “No one can do that.” Then more towards the end of his life (CC) presumable after DJ has left the scene for an alternate reality, Armando Torres reports CC now believing he can do this and that it is the task set him by DJ. This change of mind seems to coincide with CC’s public offering of Tensegrity and this “open door” into the sorcerers world. Something that previously only the designs of intent used Naguals and nagual parties built on the Rule to usher people in that were specifically “marked” by the designs of intent. Are we to believe that this is just a natural evolution of CC, (and the Rule)? If so a little more clarity regarding this would have been helpful.
He explained that the assemblage point of Earth has changed many times in the past, and will do so in the future. In recent times it has been moving steadily towards the area of reason. EWTN
It is comments like this one that really leave me scratching my head and saying...”Really? Really?” A high school student acquainted with even rudimentary history sees this. They might not call it an Assemblage Point. Which begs the question why is a nagual leader needed to do this now? The age of reason began with just the aid of a telescope. What kind of world does CC wish to usher in?
“The movement of the assemblage point of a sufficient number of warriors can change the modality of the time, and that is what I am working towards." EWTN
So it appears we are back to the “hundredth monkey theory” of the 1970s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect
Many people of all different kinds and backgrounds are working on the premise of hundredth monkey theory in many different fields, I guess we should be grateful that Castaneda was to. But discrepancies niggle at me.
"The refocusing of the Earth's attention is the product of the combined
action of many generations of naguals. The new seers conceived of it as a
possibility, and discovered that it was part of the Rule." EWTN
Can some show me where in the Rule this is?