02-04-2011, 12:01 AM
Lex.
I’m going to jump into the discussion here---hope it doesn’t
feel too disruptive.
I’ve been posting in Wei’s forum for a few days now related
to the whole discussion on new and old seers. And what you’re saying above has a resonance with me on
several levels. First I want to
qualify what I’ll say though: I run the risk of doing exactly what I’m saying
is a seer’s error by responding!
Hopefully, I’ll post enough to explain that comment.
So first---don’t take other’s comments personally. It’s the unknown, literally, when a
thread goes “off topic” and into another vein than you originally
intended! Those comments don’t
have to be deflections. They can
simply be a change in direction. I
can see your desire to have a discussion along one theme but when people offer
a different flavor, it’s easy to interpret that as “Well, I thought we were
eating the same meal, but looks as though they’re at another dinner party!”
Open the aperture up for more light to enter.
Second, I love the thoughts in your second paragraph! I’m going to cut and paste from my
thread in Wei’s forum. This is
such a good example of energy aligning with like energy!
Each of us must develop our own system
for entering the unknown and unknowable. Instead we’ve adopted a “one size fits
all” model that can be purchased and plugged into our transportation system—or,
our body---for getting us to unknown locations, (ie. freedom) just like a GPS
in a car. But we would rather learn/quote/copy someone else than to
create a system that is individual for our own journey. Doesn’t mean
someone else doesn’t have pieces of what we all claim we’re looking for—freedom—it
just means we’re operating from the assumption that knowledge is universal
rather than selective. Then we lock onto those universal pieces, the
universal knowledge, and lose touch with experience unique to us.
We compare, contrast, argue, develop,
detail, articulate, develop, and write out the collective model for becoming a
seer or getting to freedom and then spend lots of time defending that
position---missing the significance in the uniqueness of our own experience as
though only as we corroborate it with others, is it viable. The tonal of
our times does this by standardizing, quantifying, and regulating what is best
for the system as a whole. We become detail bound, as though the depth of
our detail is what justifies our position when, in effect, it’s the opposite:
our love of detail locks us into the known and curtails movement into the
unknown.
We have the challenge and opportunity
to face the unknown daily!!!
The unknowable is anything we’ve NOT
experienced!!!
Death for example. By the time we get
to death, it’s no longer the unknowable; it’s now become the unknown as we move
into the realm of experience, and then immediately it becomes the known.
That movement from unknowable, to unknown, to known, happens in a
millisecond---yet, our collective sorceric knowledge says it’s related to the
understanding that we’re grappling to get to, as though it’s always just out of
our reach to attain. We’ve put the
attainment of the unknowable out of our grasp and we’ve done that because the
old seers told us it’s impossible to grasp.
Our freedom as seers is to face and to
respond to what presents itself before us daily; it’s not in the future, yet it
is in the respect that it’s “in front” of us—a minute fraction of placement
away from our being, yet within visual sight and we enter into it each and
every moment that we face our lives without lens cloudy with memory, or trauma,
or thought, or mind---anything that clouds our view of what lies in front of
our very noses!
So it isn’t imperative that my seeing match yours or vice
versa. It’s nice though when it
does. I want to spend more time
facing the mystery in front of me rather than in map making a matching map with
others.
I’m going to jump into the discussion here---hope it doesn’t
feel too disruptive.
I’ve been posting in Wei’s forum for a few days now related
to the whole discussion on new and old seers. And what you’re saying above has a resonance with me on
several levels. First I want to
qualify what I’ll say though: I run the risk of doing exactly what I’m saying
is a seer’s error by responding!
Hopefully, I’ll post enough to explain that comment.
So first---don’t take other’s comments personally. It’s the unknown, literally, when a
thread goes “off topic” and into another vein than you originally
intended! Those comments don’t
have to be deflections. They can
simply be a change in direction. I
can see your desire to have a discussion along one theme but when people offer
a different flavor, it’s easy to interpret that as “Well, I thought we were
eating the same meal, but looks as though they’re at another dinner party!”
Open the aperture up for more light to enter.
Second, I love the thoughts in your second paragraph! I’m going to cut and paste from my
thread in Wei’s forum. This is
such a good example of energy aligning with like energy!
Each of us must develop our own system
for entering the unknown and unknowable. Instead we’ve adopted a “one size fits
all” model that can be purchased and plugged into our transportation system—or,
our body---for getting us to unknown locations, (ie. freedom) just like a GPS
in a car. But we would rather learn/quote/copy someone else than to
create a system that is individual for our own journey. Doesn’t mean
someone else doesn’t have pieces of what we all claim we’re looking for—freedom—it
just means we’re operating from the assumption that knowledge is universal
rather than selective. Then we lock onto those universal pieces, the
universal knowledge, and lose touch with experience unique to us.
We compare, contrast, argue, develop,
detail, articulate, develop, and write out the collective model for becoming a
seer or getting to freedom and then spend lots of time defending that
position---missing the significance in the uniqueness of our own experience as
though only as we corroborate it with others, is it viable. The tonal of
our times does this by standardizing, quantifying, and regulating what is best
for the system as a whole. We become detail bound, as though the depth of
our detail is what justifies our position when, in effect, it’s the opposite:
our love of detail locks us into the known and curtails movement into the
unknown.
We have the challenge and opportunity
to face the unknown daily!!!
The unknowable is anything we’ve NOT
experienced!!!
Death for example. By the time we get
to death, it’s no longer the unknowable; it’s now become the unknown as we move
into the realm of experience, and then immediately it becomes the known.
That movement from unknowable, to unknown, to known, happens in a
millisecond---yet, our collective sorceric knowledge says it’s related to the
understanding that we’re grappling to get to, as though it’s always just out of
our reach to attain. We’ve put the
attainment of the unknowable out of our grasp and we’ve done that because the
old seers told us it’s impossible to grasp.
Our freedom as seers is to face and to
respond to what presents itself before us daily; it’s not in the future, yet it
is in the respect that it’s “in front” of us—a minute fraction of placement
away from our being, yet within visual sight and we enter into it each and
every moment that we face our lives without lens cloudy with memory, or trauma,
or thought, or mind---anything that clouds our view of what lies in front of
our very noses!
So it isn’t imperative that my seeing match yours or vice
versa. It’s nice though when it
does. I want to spend more time
facing the mystery in front of me rather than in map making a matching map with
others.