03-23-2011, 12:01 AM
ninth octave wrote:
alien wrote:
ninth octave wrote:
About Carlos Castaneda the man...you can't con a con artist.
Good point. So, out of curiosity, do you think CC was a con artist? What I'm asking is whether or not you think his books are valid as a report of a system of knowledge (nagualism), or did he make it up as he went along? I'd really like to hear what others here think on that subject.
Personally, I believe CC did encounter a real nagual in Mexico. Whether his name was Don Juan or not doesn't matter or from what lineage doesn't matter. I think CC was moreso a visionary - more than a nagual. I think CC 's intent for his readers was to unveil and take a ride on the "cosmic vagina" as he could easily demonstrate it's accessability for anyone who is willing to venture deeply within the tonal and nagual of oneself.
Did he make it up as he went along? I think CC took the earlier encounters with DJ in the early 1960's by disseminating these original teachings of Don Juan through out the course of all his books. These stages and states of heighten awareness probably came about by needed experiment with the power plants that DJ gave to get his AP to stay were these transmissions were possible. I wouldn't be surprised if all his writings from that point forward were done while sitting down in front a stack of unpublished papers from UCLA. I believe he could go deep into active dreaming were he could more or less channel upon Don Juan teachings.
From the late 1970's onward, I think CC started living a lavished perverted lifestyle that lead to his demise.
I truly believe Castaneda was a man of knowledge who knew too much and could see how things became easily fabricated.
Very interesting. That's pretty much what I would have said myself!
alien wrote:
ninth octave wrote:
About Carlos Castaneda the man...you can't con a con artist.
Good point. So, out of curiosity, do you think CC was a con artist? What I'm asking is whether or not you think his books are valid as a report of a system of knowledge (nagualism), or did he make it up as he went along? I'd really like to hear what others here think on that subject.
Personally, I believe CC did encounter a real nagual in Mexico. Whether his name was Don Juan or not doesn't matter or from what lineage doesn't matter. I think CC was moreso a visionary - more than a nagual. I think CC 's intent for his readers was to unveil and take a ride on the "cosmic vagina" as he could easily demonstrate it's accessability for anyone who is willing to venture deeply within the tonal and nagual of oneself.
Did he make it up as he went along? I think CC took the earlier encounters with DJ in the early 1960's by disseminating these original teachings of Don Juan through out the course of all his books. These stages and states of heighten awareness probably came about by needed experiment with the power plants that DJ gave to get his AP to stay were these transmissions were possible. I wouldn't be surprised if all his writings from that point forward were done while sitting down in front a stack of unpublished papers from UCLA. I believe he could go deep into active dreaming were he could more or less channel upon Don Juan teachings.
From the late 1970's onward, I think CC started living a lavished perverted lifestyle that lead to his demise.
I truly believe Castaneda was a man of knowledge who knew too much and could see how things became easily fabricated.
Very interesting. That's pretty much what I would have said myself!