08-02-2012, 12:12 AM
It is clear that energy body/soul is a vehicle of travel, of transference, of "rebirth" - it is pretty obvious how the idea of "reincarnation" is misleading, as it is exactly the energy body/soul transfer/travel, the migration of energy bodies (soul), the transmigration.
hence the critical idea to take care of ones soul (the meaning of nagualism), or even taking the journey (leap to infinity), the dream of sorcerers (naguals), what is a pure adventure, the ultimate cosmic trip, not a matter of greed, but freedom ,)) I strongly advocate for that, pro-freedom, pro-adventure.
Why i have been posting here ? Just to clarify this issue. I have met Los Nuevos lineage 10 years ago.
Now i understand that energy body/soul is the issue here. The soul is the issue. (i admit that i should do it immediately here, or rather i should do it that 10+ years ago, but **** happens)
To take the adventure (what is granted by God/Eagle anyway), cosmic trip into third attention (completion of energy), or to complete energy body/soul at least (that means to not lost the soul) and make it to heavens gates, this is clearly possible, so in the case that ones physical body dies after a good life, the energy body/soul makes it to heavens, and the party/fun continues. So no worries.
This a well known option. The journey of energy body/soul, in the death, the definitive journey is the same for everybody in the end of life of every human being. The gateway of heaven is viewed literary as one is taking a dream travel, death is like a dream travel (up to 49 earth days), hence the gateway of heaven is viewed as one is entering heavens as like in the dream, getting it there. or buddhist phowa to rupa-dhatu. this is well known to, the buddhist monks make it to rupa-dhatu levels with their energy bodies (anagami) in the death. and the third option is the total unbinding/nirvana (into the Clear light of the absolute basis of Universe), dissolution.
HENCE the idea of taking care of ones soul, to do "navigation" as one is still alive, is absolutely critical. And this is "sorcery/nagualism", this is the idea that CC has proposed, although in phenomenological manner, and in frame of the nagual myth of toltec total freedom. Its clear since 2004, and as of today, as of 2012, its a global shift in nagualism toward propagation of new seers lineages, what is our true human potential.
The partial opinions on reality are dangerous..
Nihilism is bad The modern materialistic scepticism or spiritual materialism (new age) are bad, or ok, as God doesnt care, bad conduct is bad (hungry ghosts, animal, demons, naraka/state of paranoia energy body travel).
It is not true that this soul/energy body is not explicit in buddhism or yoga (its puggala, antarabhava, panca-kosha etc.), it is just badly expressed.
The problem is to disregard energy body - soul. This is the big mistake. Otherwise all the navigation is natural.
So i suggest, to travel into heavens direction as still alive in the navigation. it is possible still alive, and when the **** happens (as the third attention burning is not easy), just take the course to heavens direction.
hence the critical idea to take care of ones soul (the meaning of nagualism), or even taking the journey (leap to infinity), the dream of sorcerers (naguals), what is a pure adventure, the ultimate cosmic trip, not a matter of greed, but freedom ,)) I strongly advocate for that, pro-freedom, pro-adventure.
Why i have been posting here ? Just to clarify this issue. I have met Los Nuevos lineage 10 years ago.
Now i understand that energy body/soul is the issue here. The soul is the issue. (i admit that i should do it immediately here, or rather i should do it that 10+ years ago, but **** happens)
To take the adventure (what is granted by God/Eagle anyway), cosmic trip into third attention (completion of energy), or to complete energy body/soul at least (that means to not lost the soul) and make it to heavens gates, this is clearly possible, so in the case that ones physical body dies after a good life, the energy body/soul makes it to heavens, and the party/fun continues. So no worries.
This a well known option. The journey of energy body/soul, in the death, the definitive journey is the same for everybody in the end of life of every human being. The gateway of heaven is viewed literary as one is taking a dream travel, death is like a dream travel (up to 49 earth days), hence the gateway of heaven is viewed as one is entering heavens as like in the dream, getting it there. or buddhist phowa to rupa-dhatu. this is well known to, the buddhist monks make it to rupa-dhatu levels with their energy bodies (anagami) in the death. and the third option is the total unbinding/nirvana (into the Clear light of the absolute basis of Universe), dissolution.
HENCE the idea of taking care of ones soul, to do "navigation" as one is still alive, is absolutely critical. And this is "sorcery/nagualism", this is the idea that CC has proposed, although in phenomenological manner, and in frame of the nagual myth of toltec total freedom. Its clear since 2004, and as of today, as of 2012, its a global shift in nagualism toward propagation of new seers lineages, what is our true human potential.
The partial opinions on reality are dangerous..
Nihilism is bad The modern materialistic scepticism or spiritual materialism (new age) are bad, or ok, as God doesnt care, bad conduct is bad (hungry ghosts, animal, demons, naraka/state of paranoia energy body travel).
It is not true that this soul/energy body is not explicit in buddhism or yoga (its puggala, antarabhava, panca-kosha etc.), it is just badly expressed.
The problem is to disregard energy body - soul. This is the big mistake. Otherwise all the navigation is natural.
So i suggest, to travel into heavens direction as still alive in the navigation. it is possible still alive, and when the **** happens (as the third attention burning is not easy), just take the course to heavens direction.