06-25-2014, 12:00 AM
Littlepaw wrote
ear Serloco
I think there is more to life than intentionally controlling awareness this seems like a real underestimation or underassesment I find talking to people a big challenge and I dont think sorcery really makes a difference , I think it is safe to say that we all find people challenging but perhaps only Warriors really learn to see it that way.
I understand that many great things can be accomplished by being a sorcerer but I think Don Juan was always telling Carlos that the second attention was like a training ground for the third attention and that sorcery was a dead end path which leads nowhere!
When you say cursed form are you talking about enslavement? Im not sure if I see enslavment as a curse, In the movie Gladiator Maximous the Roman general was demoted to slave status and had one hell of a ride out of it so much so it killed him! I know its just a movie but he was still a slave.
When you say '' Thus to say that sorcery is cursed is really to examine one position of cursed awareness '' you are actually asking me to imagine one position of cursed awareness, why would I want to do that? And you might be right that examining one position of cursed awareness is the reason for our continual enslavement.
Are you feeling cursed? why would you want to move in to a curse? Perhaps it has a funky rhythm?! a beat to grove to and a melody (hi hats and a cymbal) ?
I do follow Theun or at least have read his books. I think if I were to ask you if you think I am cursed you would clearly have to say yes but do you know this for positive? Is this what your seeing tells you?
I followed castaneda blindly but Theuns writings I actually put in to practice and am able to talk to all kinds of interesting people with passion, suprise, discovery and respect. Perhaps I have not displayed these qualities to you but it does happen from time to time.
I feel that your post is a bit hostile and I wonder if this might be because I have acted badly toward you in the past. Im sorry for that, also I estimate that not much gets done when tempers are high : (
Take care
Little paw
You can think what you want. but don Juan clearly stated in my teachings, in which I could not see at the time, like you, that the path of an impeccable waarior leads to freedom. And from studying this way, and trusting hid teachings, I not only learned to see what sorceryy is, but awareness itself, intent and will, power. You say don Juan said that the path leads nowhere, which means you are focusing on a negative and missing the point of the teaching.
You then call me a hypocrite and say I am dping the same as you, when I say look at the cursed awareness. But you are again a self-important fool. I am not giving you cursed awareness, as you as passing to me and beleiving without seeing. I am telling you to look that if you have a curesed awareness, as you do, and an intent to fail, as you do, then you have merely set your intent to fail, and then pass this intent into the path pf sorcery. Which is a cursed you have formed through not actually seeing sorcery for what it is. The basic element of seeing energy directly, awareness, and intent and will, and perception, and the intent to see Infinity, gaze eternoty, and learn all of the universe and everything in it while not being stuck to one way or form, is the best practice for leading to freedom. In which al of don Juans teachings lead to. Evil tried to twist truth, your self-importance tried to objuscate the truth you don't see. In actuality Little Paw you are just a weak person, and you know not only nothing about sorcery or even have awareness of the teachings and what they do. You can't see how total awareness leads to freedom, and you then try to say I said that "I like to be cursed", but you are really dimwit, cannot see your own self-importance and twist the truth to make yourself right and better.
You then try to place hostily into me where there is none. Do I like the black magic of people like you? No I don't, and I see them and judge them for it yes.
If there is more tpo life then intentionally controlling awareness then that just means their is more to be aware of dumby. You can't even see what awareness is related to what you say yet you attack the path of awareness. Like I said you know very little beyond yourself.
Se nother example of your self-importance and falure to see what is actual, failing to look beyond yourself to see the truth. You say my seeing telling me that you are cursed and I am wrong, but I see you are full of self-importance, evil lies, and an awareness that not see energy nor awareness, nor many things, and you do not possess awareness of curses. THAT is the curse I SEE. But you could never know that because you see what your self-importance brings into your 'mind'.
Yes you follwoed don Juan blindly and it got you no-where. I agree, like I see, you then left it and learned nothing from it, then returned not only failing to see it but forming awareness and beleving that it leads nowhere and not to freeodm. You enjoyed this teaching because it made you feel like the path failed and not you.
Now go ahead and miss all of what I say again only to protect yourself, and twist what I really say in order to attack me., and perceive from your self-importance.
You go ahead and get your knowledge of enslavement and freedom from your Gladiator movies, I will get it from my life, and the seeing of the forces around me, and in everything, in order to gain actual awareness from seeing and will continue on my path of freedom.
I hope your path is all you want out of it. And gives you what you seek.
ear SerlocoI think there is more to life than intentionally controlling awareness this seems like a real underestimation or underassesment I find talking to people a big challenge and I dont think sorcery really makes a difference , I think it is safe to say that we all find people challenging but perhaps only Warriors really learn to see it that way.
I understand that many great things can be accomplished by being a sorcerer but I think Don Juan was always telling Carlos that the second attention was like a training ground for the third attention and that sorcery was a dead end path which leads nowhere!
When you say cursed form are you talking about enslavement? Im not sure if I see enslavment as a curse, In the movie Gladiator Maximous the Roman general was demoted to slave status and had one hell of a ride out of it so much so it killed him! I know its just a movie but he was still a slave.
When you say '' Thus to say that sorcery is cursed is really to examine one position of cursed awareness '' you are actually asking me to imagine one position of cursed awareness, why would I want to do that? And you might be right that examining one position of cursed awareness is the reason for our continual enslavement.
Are you feeling cursed? why would you want to move in to a curse? Perhaps it has a funky rhythm?! a beat to grove to and a melody (hi hats and a cymbal) ?
I do follow Theun or at least have read his books. I think if I were to ask you if you think I am cursed you would clearly have to say yes but do you know this for positive? Is this what your seeing tells you?
I followed castaneda blindly but Theuns writings I actually put in to practice and am able to talk to all kinds of interesting people with passion, suprise, discovery and respect. Perhaps I have not displayed these qualities to you but it does happen from time to time.
I feel that your post is a bit hostile and I wonder if this might be because I have acted badly toward you in the past. Im sorry for that, also I estimate that not much gets done when tempers are high : (
Take care
Little paw
You can think what you want. but don Juan clearly stated in my teachings, in which I could not see at the time, like you, that the path of an impeccable waarior leads to freedom. And from studying this way, and trusting hid teachings, I not only learned to see what sorceryy is, but awareness itself, intent and will, power. You say don Juan said that the path leads nowhere, which means you are focusing on a negative and missing the point of the teaching.
You then call me a hypocrite and say I am dping the same as you, when I say look at the cursed awareness. But you are again a self-important fool. I am not giving you cursed awareness, as you as passing to me and beleiving without seeing. I am telling you to look that if you have a curesed awareness, as you do, and an intent to fail, as you do, then you have merely set your intent to fail, and then pass this intent into the path pf sorcery. Which is a cursed you have formed through not actually seeing sorcery for what it is. The basic element of seeing energy directly, awareness, and intent and will, and perception, and the intent to see Infinity, gaze eternoty, and learn all of the universe and everything in it while not being stuck to one way or form, is the best practice for leading to freedom. In which al of don Juans teachings lead to. Evil tried to twist truth, your self-importance tried to objuscate the truth you don't see. In actuality Little Paw you are just a weak person, and you know not only nothing about sorcery or even have awareness of the teachings and what they do. You can't see how total awareness leads to freedom, and you then try to say I said that "I like to be cursed", but you are really dimwit, cannot see your own self-importance and twist the truth to make yourself right and better.
You then try to place hostily into me where there is none. Do I like the black magic of people like you? No I don't, and I see them and judge them for it yes.
If there is more tpo life then intentionally controlling awareness then that just means their is more to be aware of dumby. You can't even see what awareness is related to what you say yet you attack the path of awareness. Like I said you know very little beyond yourself.
Se nother example of your self-importance and falure to see what is actual, failing to look beyond yourself to see the truth. You say my seeing telling me that you are cursed and I am wrong, but I see you are full of self-importance, evil lies, and an awareness that not see energy nor awareness, nor many things, and you do not possess awareness of curses. THAT is the curse I SEE. But you could never know that because you see what your self-importance brings into your 'mind'.
Yes you follwoed don Juan blindly and it got you no-where. I agree, like I see, you then left it and learned nothing from it, then returned not only failing to see it but forming awareness and beleving that it leads nowhere and not to freeodm. You enjoyed this teaching because it made you feel like the path failed and not you.
Now go ahead and miss all of what I say again only to protect yourself, and twist what I really say in order to attack me., and perceive from your self-importance.
You go ahead and get your knowledge of enslavement and freedom from your Gladiator movies, I will get it from my life, and the seeing of the forces around me, and in everything, in order to gain actual awareness from seeing and will continue on my path of freedom.
I hope your path is all you want out of it. And gives you what you seek.