01-07-2018, 12:01 AM
watergaze wrote:this is quite a nice progression... and exactly how I have found it to work for myself. One opens up to something and teachers are everywhere = learning is just waiting to happen for those who are curious and open.
glance, I really loved reading your posts here too
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Thnx guys for a nice read.
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I will respond to two things from the thread.
glance wrote: used to meditate on death.......imagining various ways of dying. A favorite was in being decapitated. Head ripped off in a car accident. Guillotine in the 18 century. Head bitten off by a great white shark. Head sawn off by Jihadi John Gruesome, I know....but the intent behind the practice was simply to detach and expand to something beyond compulsive clinging to self, particularly at the level of thoughts....and to open up the throat, third eye, crown chakras wide open.
Le_Regard wrote:Really? But isn't it mostly the lower chakras that are the ones that don't want to die?
I wrote this already in RF, but for Le-Regard I'm gonna say it here too. Decapitating is an old shamanic hm what to call it not exactly ritual. An actual thing that they did in the past, today in neo/core-shamanism it is done more symbolically but in deep states of awareness. The effect is profound and shifts the person for a few days.
It is the mind that often rules people and that has trouble getting in sync with the other parts of the body. In shamanism all of the body is intelligent and aware (duh). But the mind in the people of the modern world has taken over control. This stops the other intelligence to manifest and help us during our lives.
The need to understand everything links to that... overactive mind. The mind, as well as all other parts of ourselves, need balance.
Plus in dreams this is how we often function, we do not have the same type of mind control as we do in the waking world. We use more of our full body awareness/processing/understanding. And it is quite a helpful thing to activate more in one's waking life.
Le_Regard wrote:It's not enough for me to find some wise being, ask for my own special perfect medicine, and take it. That's not enough at all. I need to understand how it works. I don't know why, I just do.
Maybe it's enough for most people, but there's at least one type of person who needs to know ALL the medicines, and ALL the conditions, and that's a doctor. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a doctor, right?
there are different types of knowing. Understanding is only one form. I doubt though that a doctor understands all about how each medicine works (chemically, physically, what consequences it actually has etc). Seeking understanding is a great drive, I have met many who have embarked on the seekers path with this drive. I hope it serves you well. And I am sure it will lead to understanding of different ways of knowledge too .
I was kinda like you with wanting to understand everything. These things that happen that have no overt clear meaning or purpose would get me quite perplexed and frustrated hehe. It was something I had to deal with/ let go or I'd go crazy. And once that happened I started seeing things I had not before. I still dont understand everything but there is a reasonable hope (based on experience) that I will understand more with more experiences and learning.In the Buddhist story that picture derives from, I think it was TWO female saints actually, they cut their heads off as proof of their attainment, but then they put them back on and start teaching.
glance, I really loved reading your posts here too
.Thnx guys for a nice read.
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I will respond to two things from the thread.
glance wrote: used to meditate on death.......imagining various ways of dying. A favorite was in being decapitated. Head ripped off in a car accident. Guillotine in the 18 century. Head bitten off by a great white shark. Head sawn off by Jihadi John
Gruesome, I know....but the intent behind the practice was simply to detach and expand to something beyond compulsive clinging to self, particularly at the level of thoughts....and to open up the throat, third eye, crown chakras wide open.Le_Regard wrote:Really? But isn't it mostly the lower chakras that are the ones that don't want to die?
I wrote this already in RF, but for Le-Regard I'm gonna say it here too. Decapitating is an old shamanic hm what to call it not exactly ritual. An actual thing that they did in the past, today in neo/core-shamanism it is done more symbolically but in deep states of awareness. The effect is profound and shifts the person for a few days.
It is the mind that often rules people and that has trouble getting in sync with the other parts of the body. In shamanism all of the body is intelligent and aware (duh). But the mind in the people of the modern world has taken over control. This stops the other intelligence to manifest and help us during our lives.
The need to understand everything links to that... overactive mind. The mind, as well as all other parts of ourselves, need balance.
Plus in dreams this is how we often function, we do not have the same type of mind control as we do in the waking world. We use more of our full body awareness/processing/understanding. And it is quite a helpful thing to activate more in one's waking life.
Le_Regard wrote:It's not enough for me to find some wise being, ask for my own special perfect medicine, and take it. That's not enough at all. I need to understand how it works. I don't know why, I just do.
Maybe it's enough for most people, but there's at least one type of person who needs to know ALL the medicines, and ALL the conditions, and that's a doctor. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a doctor, right?
there are different types of knowing. Understanding is only one form
. I doubt though that a doctor understands all about how each medicine works (chemically, physically, what consequences it actually has etc). Seeking understanding is a great drive, I have met many who have embarked on the seekers path with this drive. I hope it serves you well. And I am sure it will lead to understanding of different ways of knowledge too .I was kinda like you with wanting to understand everything. These things that happen that have no overt clear meaning or purpose would get me quite perplexed and frustrated hehe. It was something I had to deal with/ let go or I'd go crazy. And once that happened I started seeing things I had not before. I still dont understand everything but there is a reasonable hope (based on experience) that I will understand more with more experiences and learning.In the Buddhist story that picture derives from, I think it was TWO female saints actually, they cut their heads off as proof of their attainment, but then they put them back on and start teaching.