01-07-2018, 12:01 AM
glance left wrote:Trick is to stop inwardly doubting and let the one-thing-leads-to-another take me wherever its leading....even if that's far away from rigid formalism that preceded it
Le_Regard wrote:I have found recently that that trick is harder than it sounds because the #1 obstacle to not inwardly doubting yourself is other people.
I know everyone SAYS be detached and it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, but that's just not true. There a billions of people, and yes you can hide from most them, but they all get a vote.
I sound crazy but no really in addition to the Taoist and Buddhist roots to Chinese qigong there is whole CONFUCIAN TRADITION that no one in the West in wants to talk about and caring about the energetic wellness of family and society is not really a new idea at all.
it is an obstacle, sure, if other people doubt you. But it is not the number one obstacle. Not in my opinion. That is why one can say it doesn't matter - in the long run.
I'm not sure why you say the west doesnt want to talk about the idea of caring for the wellness of others and society. I think many people want that. They just see it as hard to achieve. Still they try in some ways.
And this is what I like about the shamanic tradition. The community spirit. The fact that the shaman has a community and helps care for the well-being of the collective. And that one thing that practitioners of shamanism are learning is how to suspend their judgments and not talk bs about others. Talk /think well about people... it is good for you and them both.
Le_Regard wrote:I have found recently that that trick is harder than it sounds because the #1 obstacle to not inwardly doubting yourself is other people.
I know everyone SAYS be detached and it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, but that's just not true. There a billions of people, and yes you can hide from most them, but they all get a vote.
I sound crazy but no really in addition to the Taoist and Buddhist roots to Chinese qigong there is whole CONFUCIAN TRADITION that no one in the West in wants to talk about and caring about the energetic wellness of family and society is not really a new idea at all.
it is an obstacle, sure, if other people doubt you. But it is not the number one obstacle. Not in my opinion. That is why one can say it doesn't matter - in the long run.
I'm not sure why you say the west doesnt want to talk about the idea of caring for the wellness of others and society. I think many people want that. They just see it as hard to achieve. Still they try in some ways.
And this is what I like about the shamanic tradition. The community spirit. The fact that the shaman has a community and helps care for the well-being of the collective. And that one thing that practitioners of shamanism are learning is how to suspend their judgments and not talk bs about others. Talk /think well about people... it is good for you and them both.