02-09-2014, 12:00 AM
Funny Kao, also true.
I recently asked NLW a question about dreaming. Now i will be curious as to his answer but i wonder why i really asked it. I dont know anything about the guy. I get the idea he dreams well, but do i know? No. So why should i trust his advice beyond my own gut? Like i said i will be curious to read his response but ill be frank, the only person who is going to do stuff for me is me.
So, when someone turns to me and says 'spirit told me', well thats all well and dandy for them. The thing is, if spirit hasn't told me and just sent some fucked up human to tell me what i should do in my life, then i am not just going to accept what they say as gospel truth. Thats a leap too far.
Should i just have utter faith in what such people say and fly contrary to what i feel and believe? If i want to act like an irresponsible d head, yeah sure. Otherwise, no.
If i turn it around, would such people do what i want them to if it ran contrary to their current experience? Should i reasonably expect them to do things totally outside of what they are, unsupported by their current experience?
From previous attempts to wish people into being what i want them to be, i see that it rarely happens. I have come to view such things as a vanity, a stupid one. Even if i do it from an altered state, its still a vanity, one made from an altered state. When true power acts it does so without me needing to voice it. Things just shift, almost despite of me. Power is power. Its not anything to do with reason or thinking. Its outside of that. It rarely needs a page of text and justifications to do its thing.
My current belief is that if its written on a forum, or they said it via their mouth then thats not spirit telling me, (unless of course there is something amazing about the circumstances that draws my attention to it.) Now, if they said it to me in a dream, or as a crow, or a duck or anything outside normal consensus reality that may be different. Then yes ill admit its pretty darned odd and maybe the grand ole spirit at large is telling me to pay attention.
I prefer to keep certain boundaries clear. Nagual is dealt with by Nagual, tonal belongs to tonal. These halfway states are just a bloody mess. Was it spirit that said it to me or was it an exalted idea of someone elses self? Was it a western fart or the archetype of a divac reincarnation in the fashion of boddhisattva. That sort of thinking fatigues me. Got no time for it anymore.
Till then i am learning not to trust people. Sure i trust that they experience all sorts of things. But thats them, also im just not so sure about their interpretations. Especially when instead of a description of an experience they had, i get just the extrapolated interpretation given to me as the experience. The two things are very different.
One starts with ' i saw.......
The other start with 'You have to.......
By the way, spirit didnt tell me to write this. Hands Kao a rational stick.
I recently asked NLW a question about dreaming. Now i will be curious as to his answer but i wonder why i really asked it. I dont know anything about the guy. I get the idea he dreams well, but do i know? No. So why should i trust his advice beyond my own gut? Like i said i will be curious to read his response but ill be frank, the only person who is going to do stuff for me is me.
So, when someone turns to me and says 'spirit told me', well thats all well and dandy for them. The thing is, if spirit hasn't told me and just sent some fucked up human to tell me what i should do in my life, then i am not just going to accept what they say as gospel truth. Thats a leap too far.
Should i just have utter faith in what such people say and fly contrary to what i feel and believe? If i want to act like an irresponsible d head, yeah sure. Otherwise, no.
If i turn it around, would such people do what i want them to if it ran contrary to their current experience? Should i reasonably expect them to do things totally outside of what they are, unsupported by their current experience?
From previous attempts to wish people into being what i want them to be, i see that it rarely happens. I have come to view such things as a vanity, a stupid one. Even if i do it from an altered state, its still a vanity, one made from an altered state. When true power acts it does so without me needing to voice it. Things just shift, almost despite of me. Power is power. Its not anything to do with reason or thinking. Its outside of that. It rarely needs a page of text and justifications to do its thing.
My current belief is that if its written on a forum, or they said it via their mouth then thats not spirit telling me, (unless of course there is something amazing about the circumstances that draws my attention to it.) Now, if they said it to me in a dream, or as a crow, or a duck or anything outside normal consensus reality that may be different. Then yes ill admit its pretty darned odd and maybe the grand ole spirit at large is telling me to pay attention.
I prefer to keep certain boundaries clear. Nagual is dealt with by Nagual, tonal belongs to tonal. These halfway states are just a bloody mess. Was it spirit that said it to me or was it an exalted idea of someone elses self? Was it a western fart or the archetype of a divac reincarnation in the fashion of boddhisattva. That sort of thinking fatigues me. Got no time for it anymore.
Till then i am learning not to trust people. Sure i trust that they experience all sorts of things. But thats them, also im just not so sure about their interpretations. Especially when instead of a description of an experience they had, i get just the extrapolated interpretation given to me as the experience. The two things are very different.
One starts with ' i saw.......
The other start with 'You have to.......
By the way, spirit didnt tell me to write this. Hands Kao a rational stick.