03-14-2011, 12:00 AM
Nu Lang wrote:
APs belong to people, hence people are stalked. If you prefer to call it the ap is stalked, if that makes you feel better, thats fine with me. I say you are missing the point of it though...accepting that stalking occurs and its not 'bad'... its good, its beneficial, it draws us to the nagual.
i accept that you feel that way.... but i think what is happening is that perhaps we are missing each other with our meanings.
first of all - your ap makes you who you are. it does not "belong" to you. you are who you are at any given moment because of where it is. it creates you. second, when i say the ap is stalked, i do not mean that a person stalks the ap of someone else - i mean to say that he or she stalks a particular position for their individual ap, which then results in a change in who they are.
nu lang, just because we disagree on something does not mean that we both are not correct in our own ways. because i have a knowledge based in experience of this practice, i am talking about it with others here in a give and take - a debate. i am not angry or upset at anyone for having a different opinion. gonzo, for instance, is providing quotes and opinions and experiential knowledge in exactly the same way i am, and i don't see you calling him obstinate. have i resorted to labelling you for your views? it is you who are pointing fingers. even though you and i disagree, i am willing to give you the benefit of the for your views, but you are not giving me the same respect.
APs belong to people, hence people are stalked. If you prefer to call it the ap is stalked, if that makes you feel better, thats fine with me. I say you are missing the point of it though...accepting that stalking occurs and its not 'bad'... its good, its beneficial, it draws us to the nagual.
i accept that you feel that way.... but i think what is happening is that perhaps we are missing each other with our meanings.
first of all - your ap makes you who you are. it does not "belong" to you. you are who you are at any given moment because of where it is. it creates you. second, when i say the ap is stalked, i do not mean that a person stalks the ap of someone else - i mean to say that he or she stalks a particular position for their individual ap, which then results in a change in who they are.
nu lang, just because we disagree on something does not mean that we both are not correct in our own ways. because i have a knowledge based in experience of this practice, i am talking about it with others here in a give and take - a debate. i am not angry or upset at anyone for having a different opinion. gonzo, for instance, is providing quotes and opinions and experiential knowledge in exactly the same way i am, and i don't see you calling him obstinate. have i resorted to labelling you for your views? it is you who are pointing fingers. even though you and i disagree, i am willing to give you the benefit of the for your views, but you are not giving me the same respect.