02-13-2011, 12:00 AM
yes! good convo indeed.
"Without some sense of self, there is nothing to burn"
reminds me of the saying "you gotto have an ego to lose one". Ironic perhaps that the (little separate) self has to puff itself up to the max of its in order to be relinquished. A (little) self that has achieved some sense of dominion in earthly terms at least. You cant relinquish effectively a partially complete individuality....it has to be the fat fruit of ages of effort, in order to be effecively surrendered, wow, what an initiation.....give up EVERYTHING, we hold dear, no less. Al an appearance anyway, the real self holds nothing dear other than our essential unity, and Infinity....
"Without some sense of self, there is nothing to burn"
reminds me of the saying "you gotto have an ego to lose one". Ironic perhaps that the (little separate) self has to puff itself up to the max of its in order to be relinquished. A (little) self that has achieved some sense of dominion in earthly terms at least. You cant relinquish effectively a partially complete individuality....it has to be the fat fruit of ages of effort, in order to be effecively surrendered, wow, what an initiation.....give up EVERYTHING, we hold dear, no less. Al an appearance anyway, the real self holds nothing dear other than our essential unity, and Infinity....

