01-08-2013, 12:01 AM
nemo wrote:
So describing the third attention needs to have two things established in the observer reading the description, one an understanding of infinity, and a lack of bias of first and second attention views. This is the struggle/fun of the path with heart.
The material realm is infinite and the energetic realm is infinite, ...
I really see these two comments as especially significant.
I was conversing with someone today about the infinite known or material world. He thought it was finite.
A couple examples came to mind:
Pi is a known quantity in a sense. We know how to calculate it - that's no mystery.
But its numbers never end. We might calculate it to 10 billion digits or 100 gazillion but we will never find the end.
A guitar is a known. We can measure the strings and their tension and map all the chords...
But we can never play every possible song that can come from a guitar.
That's just one guitar, let alone the known universe!
Known doesn't = finite. And this is the unified field of the known, the unknown and the unknowable: they're all infinite.
It seems impossible because the known is an island in the unknown. But a guitar is an island on an island on an island, etc
and it is still unlimited. Remember DJ said every furrow is infinite...
"a tunnel of infinite length and width, a tunnel of reflective furrows. Every furrow was infinite, and there were infinite numbers of them."
What I mean by the unified field is not a metaphor. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd attentions are all the same "place". Infinity is right here.
So describing the third attention needs to have two things established in the observer reading the description, one an understanding of infinity, and a lack of bias of first and second attention views. This is the struggle/fun of the path with heart.
The material realm is infinite and the energetic realm is infinite, ...
I really see these two comments as especially significant.
I was conversing with someone today about the infinite known or material world. He thought it was finite.
A couple examples came to mind:
Pi is a known quantity in a sense. We know how to calculate it - that's no mystery.
But its numbers never end. We might calculate it to 10 billion digits or 100 gazillion but we will never find the end.
A guitar is a known. We can measure the strings and their tension and map all the chords...
But we can never play every possible song that can come from a guitar.
That's just one guitar, let alone the known universe!
Known doesn't = finite. And this is the unified field of the known, the unknown and the unknowable: they're all infinite.
It seems impossible because the known is an island in the unknown. But a guitar is an island on an island on an island, etc
and it is still unlimited. Remember DJ said every furrow is infinite...
"a tunnel of infinite length and width, a tunnel of reflective furrows. Every furrow was infinite, and there were infinite numbers of them."
What I mean by the unified field is not a metaphor. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd attentions are all the same "place". Infinity is right here.