01-09-2013, 12:01 AM
DoktorGreen wrote:
We only light up a finite number of filaments in this consensual reality. Its true that "Infinity is right here". The question is Can we become infinity? Can we lose the self? Can we release perception? Can we merge with the nahual? Or are we content to be observers. Spectators. Describers.
Without a Nahual assist, we only have the avenue of dreaming. The double dreams 24/7. It doesn't matter if its tonal puppet is asleep. We dream on many layers at once! And here is something to stir the soup... on every one of those layers/worlds/lives, the double has established an AP! And there is a relative time in every case. Finite numbers of filaments aligned there too. .
So, to acquire the infinite awareness (third attention), we must do much more than finding unique descriptions. We must become. And I would like to here more from people about their becoming.
Dok
Hi Dok.
We can say lots of things are true and not know them.
"To reason it out is not to verify it. I am not interested in your agreement or disagreement,
but in your attempt to comprehend what is involved in this truth." - FFW
If you REALise this is Infinity, what are you lacking?
Again, you are insisting on a stalking view - becoming, rather than being.
Stalking/tracking/hunting is a step by step process, track by track, linear. It's not the only way to
experience this universe.
"There are lots of things a warrior can do at a certain time which he couldn't do years before.
Those things themselves did not change; what changed was his idea of himself." - TOP
Thus new "unique" descriptions. Have you forgotten that the world is a description?
How many steps are there to changing a description?
How many steps to wake up from a dream?
How many steps to Intent?
Don't you know it is Infinity that folded itself to become those furrows, and further folded itself to
gaze into one of them? How can one become what one always is?
All your "can we" questions are one question to me - can we unfold?
Yes. How far do you want to unfold? The answer is "this far. right here."
I know this because "this" is what is.
How many steps to unfold this? One. If you want to call that "becoming", you can.
You want to hear about my becoming - it's an infinite process.
I have never reached the second attention linearly, through steps.
I have never "became" the second attention.
Have you?
We can't step our way out of this dimension.
Stepping/stalking/gazing into a furrow eventually leads to realisation/dreaming/placing the attention elsewhere,
not because linear stepping works, but because we realise it doesn't! So it does and doesn't work.
It leads to boredom, saturation, exhaustion, and then dreaming takes over.
Why not let dreaming take over without all that work through seeing?
Every one does what works for them. But I have detailed a truth here.
There is no horizontal way out of a plane - we have to simply realise that vertical has always existed as an option.
"Warriors do not win victories by beating their heads against walls, but by overtaking the walls.
Warriors jump over walls; they don't demolish them." - TOP
We only light up a finite number of filaments in this consensual reality. Its true that "Infinity is right here". The question is Can we become infinity? Can we lose the self? Can we release perception? Can we merge with the nahual? Or are we content to be observers. Spectators. Describers.
Without a Nahual assist, we only have the avenue of dreaming. The double dreams 24/7. It doesn't matter if its tonal puppet is asleep. We dream on many layers at once! And here is something to stir the soup... on every one of those layers/worlds/lives, the double has established an AP! And there is a relative time in every case. Finite numbers of filaments aligned there too. .
So, to acquire the infinite awareness (third attention), we must do much more than finding unique descriptions. We must become. And I would like to here more from people about their becoming.
Dok
Hi Dok.
We can say lots of things are true and not know them.
"To reason it out is not to verify it. I am not interested in your agreement or disagreement,
but in your attempt to comprehend what is involved in this truth." - FFW
If you REALise this is Infinity, what are you lacking?
Again, you are insisting on a stalking view - becoming, rather than being.
Stalking/tracking/hunting is a step by step process, track by track, linear. It's not the only way to
experience this universe.
"There are lots of things a warrior can do at a certain time which he couldn't do years before.
Those things themselves did not change; what changed was his idea of himself." - TOP
Thus new "unique" descriptions. Have you forgotten that the world is a description?
How many steps are there to changing a description?
How many steps to wake up from a dream?
How many steps to Intent?
Don't you know it is Infinity that folded itself to become those furrows, and further folded itself to
gaze into one of them? How can one become what one always is?
All your "can we" questions are one question to me - can we unfold?
Yes. How far do you want to unfold? The answer is "this far. right here."
I know this because "this" is what is.
How many steps to unfold this? One. If you want to call that "becoming", you can.
You want to hear about my becoming - it's an infinite process.
I have never reached the second attention linearly, through steps.
I have never "became" the second attention.
Have you?
We can't step our way out of this dimension.
Stepping/stalking/gazing into a furrow eventually leads to realisation/dreaming/placing the attention elsewhere,
not because linear stepping works, but because we realise it doesn't! So it does and doesn't work.
It leads to boredom, saturation, exhaustion, and then dreaming takes over.
Why not let dreaming take over without all that work through seeing?
Every one does what works for them. But I have detailed a truth here.
There is no horizontal way out of a plane - we have to simply realise that vertical has always existed as an option.
"Warriors do not win victories by beating their heads against walls, but by overtaking the walls.
Warriors jump over walls; they don't demolish them." - TOP