10-24-2010, 12:00 AM
I have scanned this thread, think I get the back and forth. Have not looked at the 'Loosh' info.
I still adhere to the basic idea, found in many of the great teachings, and, seemingly that of don Juan, that balance is the engine of sublime life.
A time for everything, in its time.
As stated before, elsewhere at SW, the Americas were an environmental paradise before the coming of the Europeans. Disease was minimal. likely due to evolution. There was plenty for all, even in the most sparse, desert area. There sure was nothing like resource scarcity. Why was there no overpopulation? No one ever asks that, among other , questions. Most peoples (I'll put the Aztecs aside for now) recognized and respected their blessings. Balanced management from the perspective of non-self importance, meaning a sense of equality with other parts of creation, was religion, supported by Legend-myth and Dreamer-Seers, who built up those legends.
So what am I saying? this: the present Tonal is one of imbalance and therefore of vast confusion among those who attempt to find its purpose. Perhaps the Flyer is a good example of Legend that explains why modern man continues to be blind to the reality , and remains obsessed with failed policies.
It is my present attitude that if human beings do not return to this way of living, universal cause and effect will force it upon them, if they survive.
Conflict seems to be all there is these days. And while there has always been some kind of conflict in human experience, it is WAY out of hand today.
From what I have studied, conflict was considered negative by the Pueblo villages of the American southwest. Their entire social structure was designed to prevent it. Structure , discipline, ritual and effort are the items required to create balance, to bring the Mind, individual and collective, under control. Is that Zen?
I still adhere to the basic idea, found in many of the great teachings, and, seemingly that of don Juan, that balance is the engine of sublime life.
A time for everything, in its time.
As stated before, elsewhere at SW, the Americas were an environmental paradise before the coming of the Europeans. Disease was minimal. likely due to evolution. There was plenty for all, even in the most sparse, desert area. There sure was nothing like resource scarcity. Why was there no overpopulation? No one ever asks that, among other , questions. Most peoples (I'll put the Aztecs aside for now) recognized and respected their blessings. Balanced management from the perspective of non-self importance, meaning a sense of equality with other parts of creation, was religion, supported by Legend-myth and Dreamer-Seers, who built up those legends.
So what am I saying? this: the present Tonal is one of imbalance and therefore of vast confusion among those who attempt to find its purpose. Perhaps the Flyer is a good example of Legend that explains why modern man continues to be blind to the reality , and remains obsessed with failed policies.
It is my present attitude that if human beings do not return to this way of living, universal cause and effect will force it upon them, if they survive.
Conflict seems to be all there is these days. And while there has always been some kind of conflict in human experience, it is WAY out of hand today.
From what I have studied, conflict was considered negative by the Pueblo villages of the American southwest. Their entire social structure was designed to prevent it. Structure , discipline, ritual and effort are the items required to create balance, to bring the Mind, individual and collective, under control. Is that Zen?