02-08-2009, 12:00 AM
toltechie wrote:
grandspeculator wrote:
> Interestingly enough Castaneda was, in saying this, inadvertently pitching for the flyers!
He was not free from them, it seems.
Gee thanks for all the agreeing you did with me, but my point was that Castaneda did not write the bullshit that Seeitall just posted. Castaneda was not full
of bull. He gave us an honest account of some important Toltec teachings.
Are you saying that Armando got imaginative in his book? It's unlikely, but everything can happen. As for other books on toltec shamanism... I
honestly don't know a full blown author.
One has to take of them whatever is useful to create a working discipline and then reach his own conclusions. For me nagual seership is a secundary path. Extremely useful as a bridge
and basis between superconsciousness and normalcy, but incomplete. That's only because I aspire to yogic
enlightenment.
For me reaching the totality of oneself is becoming human (magical, conected with the surrounding universe, etc). Enlightenment is becoming superhuman (beyond
human). Normals are aberrated subhumans.
As for the books, every time I read Castaneda's books I deliverately ignore what Castaneda
says. I take Don Juan's word. He was, in old age, sober and imppecable.
In the case of Armando's book I can't do that, because he is taking Carlos's word on nagualism, witch is not all bullshit, but has plenty of it for reasons explained above.
grandspeculator wrote:
> Interestingly enough Castaneda was, in saying this, inadvertently pitching for the flyers!
He was not free from them, it seems.
Gee thanks for all the agreeing you did with me, but my point was that Castaneda did not write the bullshit that Seeitall just posted. Castaneda was not full
of bull. He gave us an honest account of some important Toltec teachings.
Are you saying that Armando got imaginative in his book? It's unlikely, but everything can happen. As for other books on toltec shamanism... I
honestly don't know a full blown author.
One has to take of them whatever is useful to create a working discipline and then reach his own conclusions. For me nagual seership is a secundary path. Extremely useful as a bridge
and basis between superconsciousness and normalcy, but incomplete. That's only because I aspire to yogic
enlightenment.
For me reaching the totality of oneself is becoming human (magical, conected with the surrounding universe, etc). Enlightenment is becoming superhuman (beyond
human). Normals are aberrated subhumans.
As for the books, every time I read Castaneda's books I deliverately ignore what Castaneda
says. I take Don Juan's word. He was, in old age, sober and imppecable.
In the case of Armando's book I can't do that, because he is taking Carlos's word on nagualism, witch is not all bullshit, but has plenty of it for reasons explained above.