05-16-2009, 12:01 AM
docta lee wrote:
Hey bluedreamer.
Welcome to the Fam
First i would like to ask you not to be intimidated by us.
Those feelings are based on fear and you are in good hands with us ok
I am a novice at this too. So I read, I learn, and I post my questions, stories and ideas.
The truth is there is something going on here.....ever since i joined the fourm things started to become more clear to me on the warrior's path.
Maybe it has something to do with with the collective energy of the people on here.
I know what you mean about that tape loop thing in your head, I would say that is the flyer or the foreign installation.
Yeah it is freaky when you start to feel that it is real. You are not alone in these feelings bluedreamer, I get scattered too sometimes.
I will say this in the way of advise: you know you are aware of this and most people are not. That is in itself something powerful.
I would say meditate more or start to. I dont really meditate though I do the equivalent with my djembe (drum).
whatever works for you to open the door.
Thanks Docta Lee, I appreciate your warm welcome, advise, and the questions you ask on this forum. I have been visiting here off and on for maybe a year but
didn't have a computer or internet till recently, I have posted twice here I thnk. My other "persona" on this forum is grackelsnblackbirds. I
like the discussion here and especially the ones about the foriegn installation cause I don't have anyone to talk to about it and especially stragety for
reducing it's interference. Nigh on impossible to eliminate it it seems, seems like what Jesus says about sweeping your house clean and then 7 more of the
devils arrive to take their place, all the more reason to keep sweepin or take up that pick axe as Rumi says. And I recall Don Juan describing it as an
impossible task. I'm no good at remembering quotes, too much banal repition in public school dumesstication days and since then i rebelled from keeping
facts, so goes my excuse anyway. Yeah, djembe's are awesome, back when i was in college in the 90's Halim El-Dabh, a musicology professor, came
packing djembes and radiance. He did a convo and the student s were required so many of them to graduate and got the whole audience participating in one way or
another when the usual was students talking or doing homework. Two others were playing drums and around a dozen on stage circumambulating, dancing. Audience
members were clapping and beaming, it was amazingHe had been to places I thnk in western Africa learning from people there and he was shining, I believe he was
the closet to an enlightened man I have ever met. I got to go on stage and he put me on the papa drum which was what I needed lacking my dad who died and I
never got to know him welll when he was alive because of mom and dad's divorce and his drinking. While I was playing I got visual and felt fear and
unworthyness, memories, joy and acceptance for my fear ,memories, & unworthyness and I believe he was showing me a way to work--like you said meditation.
After the convo I went up to thank him and I had a red jeweled costume jewelery necklace that I wore as a talisman for my voice, for my speaking out and he
said to me "I like your voice." It was the first time I met someone who could see things like that about people. He was beautiful. I have had a few
other times such as in drum circles where I had visuals start, once when I was foraging for wild plants alot I started having visuals of them while drumming
and I knew then that eating them helps connect to wilder ascpects. I don't have a drum but i sure have things I can beat on here I just really need help
with dicipline and the town I'm living in at this time is small and conservative--no drumcircles round here, no one practicing meditation that I know of..
Last night when I went to bed just as I was falling asleep something "hit" or jolted me inside the head and I bolted awake. I have had electric
sensations hit me before and then lucid dreams but never inside my head like that. It didn't hurt , I was momentarily frightened but calm too, thought I
might start lucid dreaming but fell all the way asleep after that, kept hearing quiet voices. It felt like a "somebody". I said in my earlier post
that I had never seen a flyer that I know of but then I got to thinking about lastyear when I was laying on my cushion and noticed a tiny brown beetle near my
head. I started watching it and I felt like it was more than a mere beetle. It would walk a little toward my face and then stop and do an odd movement of
starting to step forward like a pacer horse does with the two legs together on one side and then he would shift back and forth several times. He was making
clicking noises that were too loud for one his size and I could see no way he was making the sounds. I felt like I was in an altered state and I'm not sure
if the sound he was making was that loud or if my hearing was more accute than usual due to my state. My mind was relatively quite then. I wasn't
frightened and he didn't seem threatening but I wonder now after reading here about flyers appearing as insects. I'm so green I don't have the
knowledge about what to trust and what to watch out for. So I would appreciate what you or anyone else might know about that. Once again thanks to all.
Hey bluedreamer.
Welcome to the Fam
First i would like to ask you not to be intimidated by us.
Those feelings are based on fear and you are in good hands with us ok
I am a novice at this too. So I read, I learn, and I post my questions, stories and ideas.
The truth is there is something going on here.....ever since i joined the fourm things started to become more clear to me on the warrior's path.
Maybe it has something to do with with the collective energy of the people on here.
I know what you mean about that tape loop thing in your head, I would say that is the flyer or the foreign installation.
Yeah it is freaky when you start to feel that it is real. You are not alone in these feelings bluedreamer, I get scattered too sometimes.
I will say this in the way of advise: you know you are aware of this and most people are not. That is in itself something powerful.
I would say meditate more or start to. I dont really meditate though I do the equivalent with my djembe (drum).
whatever works for you to open the door.
Thanks Docta Lee, I appreciate your warm welcome, advise, and the questions you ask on this forum. I have been visiting here off and on for maybe a year but
didn't have a computer or internet till recently, I have posted twice here I thnk. My other "persona" on this forum is grackelsnblackbirds. I
like the discussion here and especially the ones about the foriegn installation cause I don't have anyone to talk to about it and especially stragety for
reducing it's interference. Nigh on impossible to eliminate it it seems, seems like what Jesus says about sweeping your house clean and then 7 more of the
devils arrive to take their place, all the more reason to keep sweepin or take up that pick axe as Rumi says. And I recall Don Juan describing it as an
impossible task. I'm no good at remembering quotes, too much banal repition in public school dumesstication days and since then i rebelled from keeping
facts, so goes my excuse anyway. Yeah, djembe's are awesome, back when i was in college in the 90's Halim El-Dabh, a musicology professor, came
packing djembes and radiance. He did a convo and the student s were required so many of them to graduate and got the whole audience participating in one way or
another when the usual was students talking or doing homework. Two others were playing drums and around a dozen on stage circumambulating, dancing. Audience
members were clapping and beaming, it was amazingHe had been to places I thnk in western Africa learning from people there and he was shining, I believe he was
the closet to an enlightened man I have ever met. I got to go on stage and he put me on the papa drum which was what I needed lacking my dad who died and I
never got to know him welll when he was alive because of mom and dad's divorce and his drinking. While I was playing I got visual and felt fear and
unworthyness, memories, joy and acceptance for my fear ,memories, & unworthyness and I believe he was showing me a way to work--like you said meditation.
After the convo I went up to thank him and I had a red jeweled costume jewelery necklace that I wore as a talisman for my voice, for my speaking out and he
said to me "I like your voice." It was the first time I met someone who could see things like that about people. He was beautiful. I have had a few
other times such as in drum circles where I had visuals start, once when I was foraging for wild plants alot I started having visuals of them while drumming
and I knew then that eating them helps connect to wilder ascpects. I don't have a drum but i sure have things I can beat on here I just really need help
with dicipline and the town I'm living in at this time is small and conservative--no drumcircles round here, no one practicing meditation that I know of..
Last night when I went to bed just as I was falling asleep something "hit" or jolted me inside the head and I bolted awake. I have had electric
sensations hit me before and then lucid dreams but never inside my head like that. It didn't hurt , I was momentarily frightened but calm too, thought I
might start lucid dreaming but fell all the way asleep after that, kept hearing quiet voices. It felt like a "somebody". I said in my earlier post
that I had never seen a flyer that I know of but then I got to thinking about lastyear when I was laying on my cushion and noticed a tiny brown beetle near my
head. I started watching it and I felt like it was more than a mere beetle. It would walk a little toward my face and then stop and do an odd movement of
starting to step forward like a pacer horse does with the two legs together on one side and then he would shift back and forth several times. He was making
clicking noises that were too loud for one his size and I could see no way he was making the sounds. I felt like I was in an altered state and I'm not sure
if the sound he was making was that loud or if my hearing was more accute than usual due to my state. My mind was relatively quite then. I wasn't
frightened and he didn't seem threatening but I wonder now after reading here about flyers appearing as insects. I'm so green I don't have the
knowledge about what to trust and what to watch out for. So I would appreciate what you or anyone else might know about that. Once again thanks to all.