12-29-2008, 12:00 AM
Blue totem wrote:
I have mentionned before that Don Juan's sorcery was tainted by his
American-Indian slash warrior type background. I'm aware of where he comes from.
Then if Don Juan didn't know any better, why bother giving him any real credit? Specially philosophical credit.
Why follow this mans philosophy, if he evidently didn't have the right tools?
You know, when you are in the presence of a moraly illuminated person, you feel at ease.
But when Carlos was arround DJ, he felt treatened. I believe DJ's actions where more than just shortcomings.
1. Philosophy is literally loving wisdom, not bullshit talking. Wisdom is something practical. He did have valuable tools. He didn't have them
all. Do you?
2. Morally enlightened person!? I don't know anybody that became enlightened out of his morality. Enlightened
beings are naturally ethical around the lives and freedoms of others. That's not the same thing. Morality is
mechanical.
And how would you know how one feels around an enlightened being anyway? Have you meet an enlightened being in the
flesh? Some of them are quite disturbing! Not because they are morbid, but because we are aberrated.
Carlos felt all kinds of things around Don Juan, but he loved him and loved to
be in his company. He even wrote in one of his books that he felt that Don Juan was "his only true friend in this
world".
People fear freedom, you know? You fear freedom. That's why you
hide behind your ideas and beliefs.
It's easier to say "Don Juan is bullshit" than walk his path and see it for yourself!
That is quite alright! You don't like Don Juan? Good! Find someone that you like and follow his lead!
The question is: Do you have what it takes to attract a real teacher into your life? Do you have a real teacher in your life? If you do... why are you here? Follow him!
If you think that you can do-it-yourself you are sadly mistaken. You need help.
You need to accept that you need help.
If you are here just to piss down on Don Juan, to "rattle cages" or whatever, kindly *** off. You have nothing
better to offer. By not giving a better approach you are just making an ass of yourself.
And apparently I'm not the only one that thinks that way. Not that I care, but if everyone is saying that you are
wrong they just might be on to something.
As a final note... you said at some point that any imbecile can be a seer. Are you a seer? If you are to piss
down on Don Juan at the very least you should be on higher ground!! For the
time being you are, at most, pissing his shoes!
I have mentionned before that Don Juan's sorcery was tainted by his
American-Indian slash warrior type background. I'm aware of where he comes from.
Then if Don Juan didn't know any better, why bother giving him any real credit? Specially philosophical credit.
Why follow this mans philosophy, if he evidently didn't have the right tools?
You know, when you are in the presence of a moraly illuminated person, you feel at ease.
But when Carlos was arround DJ, he felt treatened. I believe DJ's actions where more than just shortcomings.
1. Philosophy is literally loving wisdom, not bullshit talking. Wisdom is something practical. He did have valuable tools. He didn't have them
all. Do you?
2. Morally enlightened person!? I don't know anybody that became enlightened out of his morality. Enlightened
beings are naturally ethical around the lives and freedoms of others. That's not the same thing. Morality is
mechanical.
And how would you know how one feels around an enlightened being anyway? Have you meet an enlightened being in the
flesh? Some of them are quite disturbing! Not because they are morbid, but because we are aberrated.
Carlos felt all kinds of things around Don Juan, but he loved him and loved to
be in his company. He even wrote in one of his books that he felt that Don Juan was "his only true friend in this
world".
People fear freedom, you know? You fear freedom. That's why you
hide behind your ideas and beliefs.
It's easier to say "Don Juan is bullshit" than walk his path and see it for yourself!
That is quite alright! You don't like Don Juan? Good! Find someone that you like and follow his lead!
The question is: Do you have what it takes to attract a real teacher into your life? Do you have a real teacher in your life? If you do... why are you here? Follow him!
If you think that you can do-it-yourself you are sadly mistaken. You need help.
You need to accept that you need help.
If you are here just to piss down on Don Juan, to "rattle cages" or whatever, kindly *** off. You have nothing
better to offer. By not giving a better approach you are just making an ass of yourself.
And apparently I'm not the only one that thinks that way. Not that I care, but if everyone is saying that you are
wrong they just might be on to something.
As a final note... you said at some point that any imbecile can be a seer. Are you a seer? If you are to piss
down on Don Juan at the very least you should be on higher ground!! For the
time being you are, at most, pissing his shoes!