07-01-2007, 12:00 AM
You know, I agree with you Lone Wolf. Until just recently, as with everything I've read that CC wrote about sorcery, I didn't take the fliers seriously at all. I thought of them as a far-fetched metaphor for something else and didn't realize they are actually described as they really are!
In particular they prey on those with excess energy. Those are the mavericks in their herd that might bust the fence down and let all the other cattle out. They get particularly agitated and nasty when naguals attempt to lead others away from their influence.
I've been attacked in dreams by them...furious (more like highly agitated since they lack true human emotions) that I've made progress with some or another person's confinement in their mental corrals. Also, when I do work with people like this I notice that dozens of things will "go wrong" in my life. Mostly it's little stuff...like any little thing to agitate me back.
It reminds me of bees in a way. If they sense you're ignoring them and just passing through their territory without affecting it, they leave you alone. But the minute you bump into the tree where their hive is: watch out..
They're just behaving in defense of their honey pot like any other creature would. Too bad it's our sap they've got mixed up with their saliva in there..
Yes, just mentioning the concept of the FI to someone would make them squirm like a mother. We all know the foreign mind is there.
Certain things that NDE people write about also point to dark and insidious influences over people, or a "veil" that is lifted after their experience and they never think of things the same way. What exactly is that "veil"? Think about it. What defineable thing has actually been lifted?
To me it's the foreign installation. And the sudden fallout common with them with people previously in their sphere goes right to the squirming of the FE. Those buggers immediately recognize the dissonance of the old cow they had in their herd and they cause a profound schism in the relations of all around him/her to distance the other herd members. In face of the new "threat" they cling to their inventories all the tighter. The really compelling part of this phenomenon is that the people who were previously the closest to the NDE person are the ones most likely to recoil, whereas strangers seem to listen a bit more with an open mind.
It's as if the fliers know people congregate in tribes with different dominant/subdominant characters and complex interrelations between each. They manipulate and exploit this monkey-system to keep their flock in line. People closest to the NDE should be most compassionate and open to their new spiritual "legs", hoping also themselves to gain insight from their family member/friend who underwent this fantastic and rare journey. But instead they want "the old" person back...exactly where they "belong".
Quote:After the accident....my husband started to brand me as Satanist , something I am not....heaven forbids for I believe and worships God. However, my sister said I have a cursed tongue that could put a curse upon someone who deserve it but when I do I receive a dose of my own penalty. My mom forbids me to say a final word against anyone after what a couple of incidents.~Araceli's NDE
Quote:Have you shared this experience with others? Yes I was too young to understand or explain what had happened so I said only "I drowned, it was wild". I was much older when I first attempted to explain it to others. Only religious people were interested~kami's NDE
Quote:They came in the room and told me I was hit by a bus and my behavior in hospital and all. I then moved out of my mothers home shortly after.
I didn't feel I belonged there. Not any bond and so distant as for them being my family.
I was saying all this spiritual stuff that was so deep and I had no control over the words that were spoken. I
also was very psychic . I was able to know when something was going to happen. It scared me.
I was a Florence Nightingale type of person before my accident and a goody two shoes . I always wanted Jesus to be proud and to be one of Gods chosen. When I moved out of my mothers home. I took a job in a massage parlor. I worked there learning the world and behaviors . I was like an adult in a child's body. People scared me. Behaviors scared me. I didn't know who I was morally or at all really. It was like a new soul having to take in life and seeing a scary world.
Several months went by and more and more I was getting flashing of me, who I was. My morals. It was like I was two different people. One in a massage parlor who only knew that life and one coming out saying you don't belong here. Its not you. I was remembering more and more of whom I was. My mind was in conflicts and I then started to have black outs. I went to a neurological doctor told him about me feeling two different people emerge and feel like I'm being told what to do like I was being lead around. It was just something hard to explain to him, when I didn't understand it myself. He put me into a mental hospital. That was very scary to me. They kept me loaded up with drugs. Guess not dealing with a head injury but a nut case...See I also told them I died and came back from the accident . Guess in 1971 those doctors didn't want to believe that. so they thought best to shove medications down my throat.~ Sharon's NDE
And then there is this curious one where a (then) child saw actual manifestations of fliers in the form of dogs with human faces each representing an tool the fliers use to keep their detainees captive:
Quote:Then on the last part of this journey I was sent to a very dismal place. Everything was grey. On the left side of me were dead trees. At the base of the trees was a dirt road. At the right of me was nothing but grey. ( Please don't think I am crazy about this next thing. I know it sounds crazy. ) I had seen animals coming toward me. There was about 6 or 7. A big owl like bird silently flew into the trees and perched there. The funny thing is that these dog like animals all had human faces. In color. They told me who the were. The biggest one introduced himself as "alcohol". They didn't seem to be very interested in me. On of these animals got on the others back ( which later in life I realized to be sex. ). I can still see some of the faces to this day. Anyway, they turned around and left.~Thomas' NDE "The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."
In particular they prey on those with excess energy. Those are the mavericks in their herd that might bust the fence down and let all the other cattle out. They get particularly agitated and nasty when naguals attempt to lead others away from their influence.
I've been attacked in dreams by them...furious (more like highly agitated since they lack true human emotions) that I've made progress with some or another person's confinement in their mental corrals. Also, when I do work with people like this I notice that dozens of things will "go wrong" in my life. Mostly it's little stuff...like any little thing to agitate me back.
It reminds me of bees in a way. If they sense you're ignoring them and just passing through their territory without affecting it, they leave you alone. But the minute you bump into the tree where their hive is: watch out..
They're just behaving in defense of their honey pot like any other creature would. Too bad it's our sap they've got mixed up with their saliva in there..
Yes, just mentioning the concept of the FI to someone would make them squirm like a mother. We all know the foreign mind is there.
Certain things that NDE people write about also point to dark and insidious influences over people, or a "veil" that is lifted after their experience and they never think of things the same way. What exactly is that "veil"? Think about it. What defineable thing has actually been lifted?
To me it's the foreign installation. And the sudden fallout common with them with people previously in their sphere goes right to the squirming of the FE. Those buggers immediately recognize the dissonance of the old cow they had in their herd and they cause a profound schism in the relations of all around him/her to distance the other herd members. In face of the new "threat" they cling to their inventories all the tighter. The really compelling part of this phenomenon is that the people who were previously the closest to the NDE person are the ones most likely to recoil, whereas strangers seem to listen a bit more with an open mind.
It's as if the fliers know people congregate in tribes with different dominant/subdominant characters and complex interrelations between each. They manipulate and exploit this monkey-system to keep their flock in line. People closest to the NDE should be most compassionate and open to their new spiritual "legs", hoping also themselves to gain insight from their family member/friend who underwent this fantastic and rare journey. But instead they want "the old" person back...exactly where they "belong".
Quote:After the accident....my husband started to brand me as Satanist , something I am not....heaven forbids for I believe and worships God. However, my sister said I have a cursed tongue that could put a curse upon someone who deserve it but when I do I receive a dose of my own penalty. My mom forbids me to say a final word against anyone after what a couple of incidents.~Araceli's NDE
Quote:Have you shared this experience with others? Yes I was too young to understand or explain what had happened so I said only "I drowned, it was wild". I was much older when I first attempted to explain it to others. Only religious people were interested~kami's NDE
Quote:They came in the room and told me I was hit by a bus and my behavior in hospital and all. I then moved out of my mothers home shortly after.
I didn't feel I belonged there. Not any bond and so distant as for them being my family.
I was saying all this spiritual stuff that was so deep and I had no control over the words that were spoken. I
also was very psychic . I was able to know when something was going to happen. It scared me.
I was a Florence Nightingale type of person before my accident and a goody two shoes . I always wanted Jesus to be proud and to be one of Gods chosen. When I moved out of my mothers home. I took a job in a massage parlor. I worked there learning the world and behaviors . I was like an adult in a child's body. People scared me. Behaviors scared me. I didn't know who I was morally or at all really. It was like a new soul having to take in life and seeing a scary world.
Several months went by and more and more I was getting flashing of me, who I was. My morals. It was like I was two different people. One in a massage parlor who only knew that life and one coming out saying you don't belong here. Its not you. I was remembering more and more of whom I was. My mind was in conflicts and I then started to have black outs. I went to a neurological doctor told him about me feeling two different people emerge and feel like I'm being told what to do like I was being lead around. It was just something hard to explain to him, when I didn't understand it myself. He put me into a mental hospital. That was very scary to me. They kept me loaded up with drugs. Guess not dealing with a head injury but a nut case...See I also told them I died and came back from the accident . Guess in 1971 those doctors didn't want to believe that. so they thought best to shove medications down my throat.~ Sharon's NDE
And then there is this curious one where a (then) child saw actual manifestations of fliers in the form of dogs with human faces each representing an tool the fliers use to keep their detainees captive:
Quote:Then on the last part of this journey I was sent to a very dismal place. Everything was grey. On the left side of me were dead trees. At the base of the trees was a dirt road. At the right of me was nothing but grey. ( Please don't think I am crazy about this next thing. I know it sounds crazy. ) I had seen animals coming toward me. There was about 6 or 7. A big owl like bird silently flew into the trees and perched there. The funny thing is that these dog like animals all had human faces. In color. They told me who the were. The biggest one introduced himself as "alcohol". They didn't seem to be very interested in me. On of these animals got on the others back ( which later in life I realized to be sex. ). I can still see some of the faces to this day. Anyway, they turned around and left.~Thomas' NDE "The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."