08-23-2017, 12:00 AM
Pixie Dust wrote:This is where it gets tricky with Carlos Castenada beliefs. So many of his followers believe they've re-capped and are above it all (warriors). Many will deny having issues because they don't want the public shaming that occurs because somehow being human is frowned upon since the goal is to be a nagual. Yet a nagual is something made up. Four-pronged individuals are the chosen ones? Really? Consider all the naguals we've met and consider whether they are something you want to be like (don't count me lol I'm not nagual).
yes, posturing can be a problem. and is sad indeed.
i dont know who is a nagual - I never cared. I care for healthy and balanced individuals. I have yet to meet a person who claims to be and nagual and be such
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"Pixie wrote:It's why I can't hate Wolf. He was broken at a young age (as he says) and had no one to help him besides a particular form of shamanism. It kept him alive. He plays games with people to "test" them because that's what Carlos said stalkers do. Wolf is committed to a particular form of shamanism and that's his passion, that's what satisfied him. Though after reading his history he wrote, it's clear that his psyche was split and it remained split. It's not even his fault. He is a product of a society that is spiritually ignorant.
I am careful not to summarize people into these kinds of narratives. I do not think it can do them justice plus I have seen many people be wrong in what they say when summarizing. I have not read these things that you refer to, so I cannot say if this is true or not.
"Pixie wrote: WG consider why you were brought in. Wolf was wise and could see, he is spiritually aware. That awareness wasn't supported by a shaman and so he had to teach himself. When we dance close to the edge of awareness, our minds have the potential to slip into that abyss. If we know we're entering a fall, we save the things we care about. Sorcery was Wolf's life. He gave it to someone who would treat it well, in the spirit he intended. That was you, girl. You're special. Special because you genuinely care about others and are intellectually competent.
I think LW has given this place many years and he was already old and wanted to put attention on a specific thing outside of the internet as well as prepare for his final journey. He gave this place to me, so to speak, because I am not a powerhungry mongrel. Lol. But no really... its very silly indeed I know... Plus the fact that I am consistent and reliable has been a plus because many people are not to some website on the www and hence cannot take care of it.
I am a nobody
This is what infuriated some... "Why is she the one who admins this place and not 'me'. She is a nobody, Im a somebody. I could make such a great use of this hub/place" (well, 'Somebody, why did you not take care of the place? I can tell you why because it was beneath Somebody to aid LW, they want to be their own boss).
Simply too big egos/self-importance to allow others into the foreground?
I will rather stay a nobody, thank you very much. Though being an admin here has ruined my nobody vibe - now I gotta fight battles I find for the most part ridiculous and unworthy of my time and attention (and some that are). - but maybe that is good for me too... 
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I want to note that I think there are wonderful shamans out there in the world. But they would not come here to take care of this place. They got much more important things to do in the world. And, let's face it, most of them are not very friendly with the internet.
"Pixie wrote:So I think about the people like Wolf and how the mental health system failed him.
again, I would not jump to conclusions.
"Pixie wrote: How humanity failed him. How there are so many like him out there. Society judges the mentally ill because they don't understand them.
How is LW mentally ill?
"Pixie wrote: Yet here you are, hanging out with a group of borderline mentally ill individuals and trying to make sense out of it. It's easy to see our calling when we look at the patterns we've held. How we've invested our time and energy reveals where our heart resides. Consider your passion and your calling. You've been doing it for a long time now.
(You know, in case you were contemplating purpose and direction xD )
Lol I guess I need it spelled out more. I understand (or feel) people because I am an empath (or maybe try not to because of it). I also understand a lot because I have gone through stuff myself. If I can heal and emerge from the fringes so can you. Cause, again, I am a nobody. And let's hope so are you haha. The more self-importance one has the worse for them: "Oh I am so special in my suffering.... so so special." In a certain sense, like I wrote above, to me most people are bordeline mentally ill. The way they explode in anger, the way they become mean to others under pressure, the way they become jealous and insecure... etc. The way they say that is who they are and think that is who they have to continue to be.
Part of a shamans journey is to heal. In order to heal one has to have stuff to heal. If there is nothing to heal then we are screwed. Rejoice that you got issues hahaha. And then HEAL .
yes, posturing can be a problem. and is sad indeed.
i dont know who is a nagual - I never cared. I care for healthy and balanced individuals. I have yet to meet a person who claims to be and nagual and be such
. "Pixie wrote:It's why I can't hate Wolf. He was broken at a young age (as he says) and had no one to help him besides a particular form of shamanism. It kept him alive. He plays games with people to "test" them because that's what Carlos said stalkers do. Wolf is committed to a particular form of shamanism and that's his passion, that's what satisfied him. Though after reading his history he wrote, it's clear that his psyche was split and it remained split. It's not even his fault. He is a product of a society that is spiritually ignorant.
I am careful not to summarize people into these kinds of narratives. I do not think it can do them justice plus I have seen many people be wrong in what they say when summarizing. I have not read these things that you refer to, so I cannot say if this is true or not.
"Pixie wrote: WG consider why you were brought in. Wolf was wise and could see, he is spiritually aware. That awareness wasn't supported by a shaman and so he had to teach himself. When we dance close to the edge of awareness, our minds have the potential to slip into that abyss. If we know we're entering a fall, we save the things we care about. Sorcery was Wolf's life. He gave it to someone who would treat it well, in the spirit he intended. That was you, girl. You're special. Special because you genuinely care about others and are intellectually competent.
I think LW has given this place many years and he was already old and wanted to put attention on a specific thing outside of the internet as well as prepare for his final journey. He gave this place to me, so to speak, because I am not a powerhungry mongrel. Lol. But no really... its very silly indeed I know... Plus the fact that I am consistent and reliable has been a plus because many people are not to some website on the www and hence cannot take care of it.
I am a nobody
This is what infuriated some... "Why is she the one who admins this place and not 'me'. She is a nobody, Im a somebody
. I could make such a great use of this hub/place" (well, 'Somebody, why did you not take care of the place? I can tell you why because it was beneath Somebody to aid LW, they want to be their own boss).Simply too big egos/self-importance to allow others into the foreground?
I will rather stay a nobody, thank you very much
. Though being an admin here has ruined my nobody vibe - now I gotta fight battles I find for the most part ridiculous and unworthy of my time and attention (and some that are). - but maybe that is good for me too... .I want to note that I think there are wonderful shamans out there in the world. But they would not come here to take care of this place. They got much more important things to do in the world. And, let's face it, most of them are not very friendly with the internet
."Pixie wrote:So I think about the people like Wolf and how the mental health system failed him.
again, I would not jump to conclusions.
"Pixie wrote: How humanity failed him. How there are so many like him out there. Society judges the mentally ill because they don't understand them.
How is LW mentally ill?
"Pixie wrote: Yet here you are, hanging out with a group of borderline mentally ill individuals and trying to make sense out of it. It's easy to see our calling when we look at the patterns we've held. How we've invested our time and energy reveals where our heart resides. Consider your passion and your calling. You've been doing it for a long time now.
(You know, in case you were contemplating purpose and direction xD )
Lol I guess I need it spelled out more. I understand (or feel) people because I am an empath (or maybe try not to because of it). I also understand a lot because I have gone through stuff myself. If I can heal and emerge from the fringes so can you. Cause, again, I am a nobody. And let's hope so are you haha. The more self-importance one has the worse for them: "Oh I am so special in my suffering.... so so special." In a certain sense, like I wrote above, to me most people are bordeline mentally ill. The way they explode in anger, the way they become mean to others under pressure, the way they become jealous and insecure... etc. The way they say that is who they are and think that is who they have to continue to be.
Part of a shamans journey is to heal. In order to heal one has to have stuff to heal. If there is nothing to heal then we are screwed
. Rejoice that you got issues hahaha. And then HEAL .