feuds (moderation)

[serloco]

See if someone freaks out and yells, or runs away, or acts from self-importance or some other form of negative awareness, and a battle ensues for a moment as temper is flared, I do not think that the topic should be immediately closed. By ignoring something does not always make it go away. Warriors have to stalk self-importance and the negative awareness they have within them. You need to allow this energy to happen as it would naturally. Here however the moderaters have at times acted too swiftly so that the energies could not be addressed and examined, learnt from. What are you afraid of? What do you have to lose? Is there nothing to be gained?

[watergaze]

what are you referring to exactly? The way how we usually do this is let it play out, unless something in it tells us otherwise. If no one responds in a few days then we clean it up. Also, usually we put a copy into Art of Stalking - Stalkers' Playground so that people can continue working on stuff. But not if its over a certain margin of interaction, vulgar etc (then it goes into Oblivion). All in all there is very little moderation of this sort (and things are very rarely deleted, so you can self stalk yourself and your behavior afterwards anyhow, just cant add to it if its in Oblivion, but for those threads it's usually a good thing. Being stopped is not always bad for one).

P.S. Also, if the thread did get moved to Oblivion, and the members think it helpful they can make another thread in Stalkers' Playground and link to the thread in Oblivion for reference... provided, of course, they move with it in helpful directions, not just continue with the tone and hostility of the previous interaction. If all you want to do is flame then you can move it to pms.

[serloco]

thanks watergaze, yeah i have no intention to flame, just wanted to stalk some awareness I saw hidden in someone and bring it to light. if i want to i'll just do as you suggest and start a new thread in stalking.

thanks for making the position of the feud moderating known to me, it sounds like a good plan to me.

[watergaze]

youre welcome and if you have any other questions or suggestions, feel free to share.

I welcome open polite discussion and/or questions on policy issues. No body is perfect and things can always improve, and sharing ideas is one way how that happens . Also it might help if the member who is asking understands our reasons for some of the policies etc.

(However, I do not welcome such discussions on site matters which are veiled to be fine and on topic when they have sharp edges underneath, because in those cases it not an issue of the policies as such but something else veiled to be a policy issue, so of course it can be a waste of time as there are low chances that things will be resolved by discussing policies. The thing why I do not like it is cause the talk cannot really help given what the person has chosen to discuss but also because it is uncomfortable to talk in such an space. What I see happening is a dissatisfied person trying to find a carrier for his or her dissatisfaction to make some sense of it. It does not really help given what the person has chosen to discuss. Cant tidy the ocean floor if all one does is splash on the surface of the water. Those types of talks tend to be a waste of time and energy too, especially if people get emotional over basically nothing and not the right thing anyhow - one needs to look/self-stalk to know where their emotion is actually coming from, not just notice where it lands, what it attaches itself to).

[serloco]

Thats cool. I do not like to be always blunt with people, but find that soft-peddling the truth to cater to a self-important awareness is not always productive in pointing our its energies. And so I use ruthlessness with truth while approaching importance. I have self-importance in myself, when I say things like "a have been in many many worlds and..." etc, and I stalk this awareness ruthlessly because it is formed awareness that sees people as less then me, because I have left the average human world many times and grown to see them as weak, self-important, trapped, closed minded fools who listen to noone but themselves, and many other negative perceptions, that have left me feeling wonderful for seeing energy and acheiving nearly every one of my dreams. Yet this awareness create my perception, and when I shift to stop the world, or enter into anotehr position, if i hold the awareness of average people being dumb asses, then I can not see them as being enlightened pure forms of awareness of the highest ability and perfection. Thus the will of my awareness sustains their ****, and yet I can shift awareness into them, move them, share though connection of consciousness, etc, and so I stalk myself ruthlessly to remove my negative self-important judgements. When I intend to enter into the 'dimension' where everyone is amazing and free, teachers, and anything, then they look at my aweful energies that judges them as weak, and stupid, and see that will is projecting this form into the world, and they want me to have my will shift to a place that supports the high level they are at. And they teach me with ruthless honesty, and say things like "Oh you are so wonderful, and I am weak and pityful" with the pure awareness that I see them as, and being pure they can take any form and so they become the form of my awareness, aligning to this perception if I do not listen to the ruthless honesty that they point out my awareness and what it does. They do not approach this important, destructive awareness by saying "uh excuse me Mr. you are great and know many great things, just like you think, but I would like to tell you one thing I saw and...blah blah". They would only be supporting the important energies by catering to them. And so I say it how it is, and act form my awareness and see exactly what the awareness is doing to themselves and the world. And this at times can be seen as an attack, and it is, just like they are attacking. But when you apply negative you remove, and so apply negative to negative(self-importance) while filling it, shifting it into positive directions.(awareness of truth though seeing). Some times the truth hurts in this way, but it is for the best, unless you want to remain in your ignorance.

NOt referring to any one in particular, nor you, but many people of the world I came from. The world I often enter into, andI see some of that world here. Which is good, because we have energy generating awareness on the form of human awareness that can be made into freedom. The potenital of a human is incredible, yet sad when it is locked away and blinded.

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