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Sock Puppets
#26
JJ, the moderators as it is now are moderating a degree of the off topic posts and spam, so, it seems, people should ask for more moderation then. As it was here since way I remember - and I found this site in 2008 - this site had a very generous policy on whatever posting.

Of course the downside to more moderation is that moderators are individuals with individual ideas/ways of looking at things like what is and is not spam. And some people might find it is a censorship as much as it is an anti-spam moderation.

(Also something is easy or hard to identify as spam depending on having or not having the info of the poster being a sock puppet. For example, Introductions is made for introducing a member/person, we do not need 3 introductions from the same person, we do not want fictive stories, that can go into story telling - art section lol. We also do not want one person to have a schizophrenic discussion with himself or herself. So in this sense sock puppets waste time and make a mess..)

Filtering out posts is not the best solution if say I filter all your posts out and someone replies to you then I still see it (i see the quote of you, or if not then I might be confused as to what is happening why someone is saying something out the blue ) and I might not want to filter out the other people making that conversation that I am not interested in. Though, yes, it sure is help. But visitors who come here do not have these settings and get the whole load and only more durable members of the site know who or what they want to filter.

OK, keep us posted on new gadgets . But you know some members here might not be into working with such stuff..

Anyhow, we are going to try filtering out the sock puppets. I want members to understand though that this is not an easy thing to do. One has to check every IP against the other members in the admin panel and also check it in an IP locator through an external site (so I see if the IP jumps around the globe, or stays within same city etc). Yuku does not have a very user-friendly system for this.

As is I am only going to check people posting from now onwards. And we will see how it goes..
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#27
I voted sock puppets..
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#28
I dd not voted, because I am new here and because everytime I read this thread or others about sock puppets, I feel like twisting in unstoppable slippery ever rolling, twisting metal grey ball, which walls are greased with butter ,which is slipping and dropping everywhere around, and the air is oily and its hot in it, making me dizzy as I cant stop it nor grasp and stabilize.
I do not know if you are people just talking, or if this is some kind of sorcery experiment and you are honing your witchcraft through here and thats the reason I will not vote, ever.
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#29
I could understand if the four Tulios were at work here
yet that does'nt seem to be the case at all

it seems the opposite

so i would implement no

and shed some light on

it
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#30
Troll is a term that people tend to want to toss at anyone they don't like
HOWEVER

I feel there are certain qualities to a true troll that are indisputable:

A true troll likes to derail topic threads with semi to complete nonsense

A true troll has nothing worthwhile to contribute to the conversation so he wants to ruin the conversation

Considering this, a sock puppet is the perfect tool of the troll

SO

The way to deal with the sock puppet issue is to ban ANYONE who derails topic threads with no worthwhile conversation to contribute!!!

THAT WILL GET RID OF THE SOCK PUPPET TROLLS!!
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#31
IF YOUR REASON FOR USING A SOCK PUPPET
IS TO ANTAGONIZE AND HARASS PEOPLE

YOU SHOULD BE BANNED!!!
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#32
the way I see it at the moment is that we will ban sock puppets, but if they pop up connected to a member of the site that member will be warned and if he or she does not heed the warning they will probably be banned. Why? Because they are wasting the time of the Admins and/or Moderators (who need to check the IPs and ban + inform the sock puppet account etc). And going against the new policy.

FYI, I have not banned anyone, ever, so I am just assuming an info message can be attached to the banning. if not I dont know if I will be writing every sock puppet an additional why you were banned pm. Maybe I will give one moderator this wonderful task if needed. Or maybe the sock puppets will just be banned, period. It is the duty of every member of the site to inform themselves of our rules and guidelines.
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#33
I'd say a valid question to ask all members is:
WHAT GOOD REASON IS THERE

FOR USING A SOCK PUPPET?

When I tried it I was working on creating characters for a movie screenplay I was working on. I wanted to see if I could give each character a consistent personality. I did not create the sock puppets to harass people. I wanted to see if I could convince them each one was a completely different person.

It finally became too exhausting and I figured that movie screenplay would never see a movie theater so I gave it up

I only like to post in forums where I can truly be myself. I, too often, have to ACT differently than I truly am in order to get along with people in my physical world and it can be a relief to come to a forum where I can be who I truly am.

This is one of the forums which afforded me that opportunity, but I got tired of being concerned about LoneWolf every time I would post here. It was very distracting!

Now that I see LoneWolf is back I sent him a PM. As soon as he responds I intend to make another donation to the ad-free status of this forum.

He's been the best administrator I have ever encountered. He would humble himself when I was at my angry worst and it humbled me much better than if he got angry as well

I happen to like LoneWolf and always wish him well!
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#34
watergaze wrote:the way I see it at the moment is that we will ban sock puppets, but if they pop up connected to a member of the site that member will be warned and if he or she does not heed the warning they will probably be banned. Why? Because they are wasting the time of the Admins and/or Moderators (who need to check the IPs and ban + inform the sock puppet account etc). And going against the new policy.

FYI, I have not banned anyone, ever, so I am just assuming an info message can be attached to the banning. if not I dont know if I will be writing every sock puppet an additional why you were banned pm. Maybe I will give one moderator this wonderful task if needed. Or maybe the sock puppets will just be banned, period. It is the duty of every member of the site to inform themselves of our rules and guidelines.Well, I can think of no good reason to use a sock puppet
You see, I've been frequenting a forum of skeptics who attack me relentlessly with sock puppets. The administrator refuses to ban me no matter how much I insult him. I go to that forum like a boxer goes into a boxing ring and I have become much tougher since I left here.

HOWEVER

I'm getting tired of always being attacked relentlessly. No matter what good I may share it is never appreciated by those scum!

This is why I am passionate about this matter of sock puppets. I am continually swarmed by them in that forum!
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#35
watergaze wrote:If you want to know how it will be you are free to consult the oracle
In the meantime you can feel into how you see sock puppets affecting this place or not affecting this place and then you will get at your answer: how it might be if one or the other option is taken.good ideathoghu practically it's to late... i'll ask him' why not?
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